Rachel,
So, you substitute books and presentations in place of
the OCP? This sounds like we are in agreement in
principle...
<;)
jack
- Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> okay, I realize this won't work for everyone on this
> list but...
>
> I hand them my resume. the third page of which is
> FILLED with lists of
> presentations I have given, awards I have gotten for
> presentations I
> have given and books I have written
>
> if they STILL want me to have OCP on my resume after
> that, I don't want
> to work there anyway
>
> --- Jack Silvey <jack_silvey_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The question is, are you going to allow your
> > clearminded moral stance and total disdain for a
> > thinly veiled DBA tax to interfere with your
> pursuit
> > of filth lucre? *I* ain't!
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > It is just another hoop to jump through so that a
> > hring manager can say "that is an impressive hoop
> you
> > jumped through" and you can respond "yes, and I
> can
> > jump through some hoops for you too" and allow
> them to
> > say "here is an outrageous sum of money to work on
> our
> > computers."
> >
> > I love this job.
> >
> > jack silvey
> > ocp 7.3, 8.0, 8i, 9i
> >
> >
> > --- Don Granaman <granaman_at_cox.net> wrote:
> > > They aren't - unless it exceeds a non-trivial
> > > percentage (6%? 7%? more? I
> > > can't remember now...) of their income and is
> > > "required" (?).
> > >
> > > This new requirement for OCP is just another in
> a
> > > long line of
> > > propaganda/baloney from Oracle in its
> never-ending
> > > attempts to suck up every
> > > buck it possibly can. [Oracle likes $$$$$. HR
> > > likes mindless checklist
> > > items. It is a match made in heaven.] I
> thought
> > > that the "need practically
> > > any two ILT classes, no matter how irrelevant"
> 9i
> > > OCM was going to be the
> > > limit of extending the the greedy grab for OCP
> bucks
> > > - for 9i at least.
> > > This isn't about certification anymore (as if it
> > > ever was), its about
> > > revenue.
> > >
> > > Since this "new requirement" (for the moment at
> > > least) doesn't apply to
> > > upgrade from an 8i certification, does anyone
> know
> > > if there is (or soon will
> > > be) a new constraint/surprise/ambush limiting
> that
> > > to 8i OCP obtained prior
> > > to, oh say, June 15, 2002? September 2002?
> > >
> > > Don Granaman
> > > [OraSaurus - with more disdain than ever for the
> > > evil vampire Larry's OCP
> > > DBA tax]
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L"
> > > <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:23 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > > I thought employees were not allowed to write
> > > things off as business
> > > > expenses...
> > > >
> > > > Confusedly yours,
> > > > Patrice Boivin
> > > > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:13 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > Subject: RE: the ora certified masters cert,
> yet
> > > again
> > > >
> > > > Are you trying to promote it?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 6:50 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am seriously considering pursuing one, since
> it
> > > can
> > > > be sold to hiring managers as a sign of
> > > professional
> > > > competence.
> > > >
> > > > Look at it from a cost/benefit ratio
> standpoint.
> > > Will
> > > > someone with this cerifification make $2000
> more
> > > over
> > > > her professional life than she would without?
> > > >
> > > > So it takes a round trip ticket and three days
> of
> > > > vacation. Get the company to pay for it or
> write
> > > it
> > > > off as a business expense.
> > > >
> > > > Good investment, easy money, instant
> credibility
> > > to
> > > > many hiring managers.
> > > >
> > > > jack silvey
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On 19 Jun 2002 at 4:38, Ron Rogers wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Date sent: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 04:38:18
> -0800
> > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list
> > > > > ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > It seems that our list has made mention in
> > > this
> > > > > report from
> > > > > > Searchdatabase.com. And Oracle is trying
> to
> > > > > justify the $2000 expence.
> > > > > > If I read this correct the $2000 is for 9i
> > > OCP.
> > > > > > =======
> > > > > > LEAD STORY
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ORACLE FUELS CERTIFICATION CONTROVERSY |
> > > > > SearchDatabase
> > > > > > Oracle has a new requirement for its
> potential
> > > > > certified
> > > > > > professionals, and the price tag is about
> > > $2,000.
> > > > > Many DBAs aren't
> > > > > > happy about the new policy but Oracle says
> the
> > > > > class makes their
> > > > > > certification more valuable than ever.
> Read
> > > the
> > > > > details of the new
> > > > > > mandate, and what DBAs and industry
> experts
> > > have
> > > > > to say about it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For the full details, click:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.searchdatabase.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid13_gci833782,00.ht
> > > > ml
> > > > >
> > > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:
> > > > > http://www.orafaq.com
> > > > > --
> > > > > Author: Eric D. Pierce
> > > > > INET: eric_d_pierce_at_pacbell.net
> > > > >
> > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858)
> 538-5051
>
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