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client-server on database 9x (update)/ Re: Upgrading from Forms 5, Oracle 7

From: Eric D. Pierce <PierceED_at_csus.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 18:43:23 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.004861E6.20020624184323@fatcity.com>

> re: client-server support on database 9.x

Looks like database 9.0.1.x will probably die (without *any* EAS) a lot sooner
than 8.1.7.

since there is no evidence at this time that database 9.2.x, or later, will
ever support client-server, database 8.1.7 looks like the better choice for
longevity reasons.

regards,
ep

additional background:

---excerpt---

Linked from search results for "190435.1"

Oracle Server (RDBMS) Releases Support Status Summary

Information here was last updated on 10-June-2002

...

Oracle Server Releases Status Summary

...

Release: 9.0.1.X
Current Patch Set 9.0.1.3
Next Patch Set : Late 2002
Error Correction Support Ends ***Probably 30-June-2003** Error Correction Support Ends ***No EMS***

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http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/showdoc?db=NOT&id=148054. 1

...

Product Version(s): 8.1.7 (8i)
Platform(s): Platform Version(s): ALL Platforms ALL

Desupport End Dates: Error Correction Support (ECS): 31-DEC-2003 Extended Assistance Support (EAS): 31-DEC-2006 Extended Maintenance Support (EMS): 31-DEC-2005

...

EAS will be provided until 31-DEC-2006, if the customer has a current support
contract in place.

...

Exceptions and/or Miscellaneous Information:

Extended Maintenance Support (EMS) will be offered on the following platforms
ONLY until 31-DEC-2005:

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Microsoft Windows 2000
...

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---excerpt from TAR---

New info : ~
Apparently I neglected to also ask how long database 9.0.1 will be supported?
~
Here is the only information I found, which is not definitive:

~
~
~(Enterprise database server)
~
~ | Desupport Information: 
~ | 
~ | The lifecycle policy for all Oracle Server releases, where
~ | lifecycle is defined as the length of support by development, 
~ | is 21 months for all non-terminal releases and 27 months for 
~ | all terminal releases. All desupport dates adhere to this 
~ | policy. These dates [***]may move out[***], however, based 
~ | on business need, product interdependencies, etc. 
~
~

Oracle database versions 8.1.7 and 9.0.1 have start dates of FEB- 2002.
~
Are you aware of any "official" statement indicating that there will be a
database version (9.0.1, or its replacement?) that supports client- server and
"developer" 6i stuff through the 2006-2008 time frame? ~
Thanks for your patience,
Eric

24-JUN-02 15:16:05 GMT Hi Eric,

UPDATE TO CUSTOMER:


For latest information about database desupport kindly refer the Note#190435.1. Till now there is no "official" statement indicating replacement for database 9.0.x that supports client-server.

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24-JUN-02 15:16:24 GMT Email Update button has been pressed -- Sending email.

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On 20 Jun 2002 at 18:43, Eric D. Pierce wrote:

...

> > Would like to go to Oracle 9 on the database if possible.
>
> According to OWS, you can run Forms6i (etc.) against database 9.0.x *IN CLIENT
> SERVER MODE*.
...

> > Apparently Forms 6 latest patch is certified against some Oracle
> > 9s but not the most recent. True?
>
> Yes, as stated above, according to OWS you can run client-server against
> database 9.0.x
>
> fyi, according to Metalink lifecycle (or whatever they call it now) the
> lifecycle of database 9.0.1, which btw started almost the same day as database
> 8.1.7, would extend from FEB-2002 for either 21 or 27 months.
>
> So, the death of databases 9.0.1 and 8.1.7 would be somewhere around DEC-2003,
> possibly as late as MAY-2004 if they are considered "terminal releases".
>
> ---excerpt from metalink---
>
> (Enterprise database server)
>
> | Desupport Information:
> |
> | The lifecycle policy for all Oracle Server releases, where
> | lifecycle is defined as the length of support by development,
> | is 21 months for all non-terminal releases and 27 months for
> | all terminal releases. All desupport dates adhere to this policy.
> | These dates [***]may move out[***], however, based on business
> | need, product interdependencies, etc.
>
>
> ---end---
>
> Note that the above dates are well short of the announced death of Forms6i
> (and presumably other "developer" 6i stuff) which was 2006 (2008 with
> "extended assistance support", or whatever they call it now).
>
> That obviously makes one wonder how one could continue using Forms 6i in
> client-server mode until 2006 or 2008 unless some database version other than
> 8.1.7 or 9.0.1 will have client-server support, or unless the desupport dates
> of either DEC-2003 or MAY-2004 are "moved out".
>
> Here is the latest word from OWS:
>
> | Q) How long will I be able to run "developer"
> | (forms/reports/etc) 6i products (or their
> | replacement products) in client-server mode
> | against database 9.0.x, or database 9.x ?
> |
> | A) Developer 6i products supports Client-Server
> | mode. Developer 6i is supported until 2006 and
> | extended support is until 2008. Till 2008 all
> | developer 6i products which are certified against
> | database 9.0.x is supported.
>
>
> That's it! No *specific* mention of how long the database 9.0.1 will be
> "supported"!
>
> (stay tuned for the final exciting conclusion coming in the next episode of
> our show.)
>
>
> note, just found on metalink:
>
> | Upcoming Oracle Product Desupports
> |
> | PLEASE NOTE: This file contains details for upcoming Oracle Product
> | desupports, with an end of Error Correction Support (ECS) date > (13) months
> | ONLY. ((13) months is the minimum notification period for customers, which
> | includes the required (12) months notification period plus (1) month of
> | Obsolescence processing.) NOTE: The information in this file is subject to
> | change without notice and is not considered a formal desupport announcement
> | until the required process and approval is received and a formal desupport
> | notice is generated. Customers may also view this file via MetaLink under
> | "Product Lifecycle" ==> "Certifications" ==> "1. View Certifications by
> | Product" ==> "Desupport Advisories and Notices" ==>
> |
> | "Upcoming Oracle Product Desupports" or by searching for Doc ID: 190435.1.
> |
> | Product & Product Version(s) Platform(s): *Oracle Server 9.2.0.1
> | & Platform Version(s): ALL Platforms
> | End of ECS Date : 30-SEP-2005
> | End of EAS Date : 30-SEP-2008
> | End of EMS Date : 30-SEP-2007
> |
> | Migration Path Notes : TBD
> |
> | *NOTE: Oracle Server includes Client, Enterprise Edition, Parallel Server,
> | Personal Edition, RAC & Standard Edition Server.
> |
> |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> |
> | For further assistance with Obsolescence &/or this file, please contact
> | OBSSUPP_US_at_oracle.com.
> | Last modified: Wednesday, 19-Jun-2002 15:21:22 PDT.
>
> ---end---
>
>
> The below is from Document #148054.1
>
> ...
> | 8.1.7 (8i)
> | Platform(s): Platform Version(s): ALL Platforms ALL
> |
> | Desupport End Dates: Error Correction Support (ECS): 31-DEC-2003
> | Extended Assistance Support (EAS): 31-DEC-2006
> | Extended Maintenance Support (EMS): 31-DEC-2005
>
> ...
>
> ---

...

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