can't resist asking ... since *this* answer advises us
not to trust your answers, aren't you in fact saying
that we should not trust this answer, which of course
means that your answers *are* in fact trustworthy?
The "everything I say is a lie" scenario that Kirk
used in that one Star Trek episode to confuse the
robot until it blew up?
(might be time to put away the tequilla now and go to
bed, Jack)
;)
/jack
- Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> you can ask... and if you actually TRUST the answers
> I give, well, you
> are insane
>
> --- Peter.McLarty_at_mincom.com wrote:
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> Datawarehousing
> > questions
> > and not RTFM :-)
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> > Subject: RE: Data Warehouse
> experts, a simple question
> > for you| Outdated?
> >
> >
> > Dennis,
> >
> > I have on my desk, all in varying stages of being
> read:
> > Inmon's book Building the Data Warehouse (very
> understandable)
> >
> > Kimball's articles from his site and from the
> > Intelligententerprise.com
> > site (somewhat understandable, I think you need a
> base from which to
> > read his articles). His books are on order and
> should arrive today
> >
> > Tim Gorman's book Essential Oracle8i Data
> Warehousing (this I haven't
> > started, as Tim tells me to read it AFTER I have a
> basic
> > understanding
> > of data warehousing)
> >
> > The Oracle8i Data Warehousing documentation
> (actually pretty readable
> > and understandable)
> >
> > Ya think I might be over-researching this stuff
> and panicking a bit?
> >
> > Rachel
> >
> > --- DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>
> wrote:
> > > Ian,
> > >
> > > - In the beginning was the data warehouse and
> yeah it was good.
> > It
> > > would
> > > solve all corporate problems and would encompass
> all corporate data
> > > so all
> > > corporate minions would see the same data.
> > > - But yeah it took so long to create the
> corporate data warehouse
> > > that
> > > management despaired and canceled the project.
> Or by the time the
> > > monster
> > > data warehouse came blinking and straining into
> the daylight all
> > the
> > > users
> > > said that the company had evolved in the
> meanwhile and the
> > warehouse
> > > was
> > > obsolete.
> > > - So data warehouses gained a bad rep from
> corporate managers and
> > > yeah
> > > none would fain to propose the conception of a
> data warehouse for
> > > fear of
> > > castigation.
> > > - Then some marketing interns bribed a DBA to
> send them data
> > > weekly. And
> > > they stored this data in a database and lo,
> their superiors were
> > > impressed.
> > > - Everyone was in awe of the marketing
> database, but none dared
> > > tarnish it
> > > by speaking the name which shall not be
> mentioned, so it was
> > > christened a
> > > "data mart".
> > > - And lo, the data marts multiplied and were
> fruitful. And the
> > DBA
> > > cursed
> > > the day she was weak and did give data to the
> marketing interns.
> > > - Then another prophet did arise and did
> challenge the prophet
> > > Kimball.
> > > His name was Inmon. And he did claim to be the
> progenitor of data
> > > warehouses. And therefore all should do data
> warehousing his way
> > and
> > > use his
> > > terms.
> > > - And great confusion arose over the land. And
> many debates
> > ensued,
> > > including some face to face between Inmon and
> Kimball. And terms
> > such
> > > as
> > > Operational Data Store (ODS) were bandied about.
> > > - And some said that queries against the ODS
> were acceptable and
> > > others
> > > deemed them forbidden. And some said that if it
> looks like a data
> > > warehouse
> > > and smells like a data warehouse it verily
> indeed is a data
> > > warehouse.
> > > - And consultants warred against consultants
> and did call the
> > other
> > > consultants ignoramuses in front of management
> such that nobody
> > knew
> > > what
> > > anybody was talking about.
> > > - And the DBAs said that creating a data
> warehouse or data mart
> > was
> > > not
> > > nearly as hard as figuring out what to call it.
> > >
> > > The moral of the story is to figure out what you
> need to do and be
> > > aware
> > > that different authors use the same terms for
> different purposes
> > and
> > > coin
> > > their own terms. Personally, I have understood
> everything that
>
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