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From: Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_YAHOO.COM>
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:58:53 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.00464D2E.20020520095853@fatcity.com>


send an email to oracle-l-ot-subscribe_at_yahoogroups.com

be prepared for a LOT of chatter.... it's being used more like a chat room than a bulletin board/email list. We started it on Sept 13 last year and are over 20,000 messages already.

on the other hand, the chatter tends to be either funny, informative or thought-provoking. And in general, a short break from the insanity of work.

the only rules on the list are: 1) no spewing hatred, unless it is hate mail directed towards a large purple dinosaur named Barney. 2) no Oracle discussions, that's what this list is for.

Joe owns it, I moderate it, and we tend to let people say what they want. Discussions have shown that people have very diverse opinions on a number of subjects, but the discussion remains polite.

Rachel
--- "Grabowy, Chris" <cgrabowy_at_fcg.com> wrote:
> One makes a large cash offering to the Oracle Goddess...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:34 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> How does one get on the OT list???
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:Rachel_Carmichael_at_Sonymusic.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:23 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
>
> as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
> consider
> "honorary men"? :)
>
> What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for
> being
> an
> "honorary man".
>
> Inquiring minds want to know :)
>
> Rachel
>
>
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> | | sfaroult_at_orio|
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> | | 05/18/2002 |
> | | 11:13 AM |
> | | Please |
> | | respond to |
> | | ORACLE-L |
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> | To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com |
> | cc: (bcc: Rachel Carmichael) |
> | Subject: Re: Do you ever have days where |
> | you dont want to think ? |
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>
>
>
>
> Larry Elkins wrote:
> >
> > The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
> running
> > around ;-)
>
> That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too
> many
> are like honorary men.
>
>
> Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
> curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the
> hash
> anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index
> fast
> full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more
> or
> less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into
> equations.
> The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
> rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your
> equations
> or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
> Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but
> I
> have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter
> either.
> Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
> the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
> because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
> (trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
> and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan
> and
> the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
> shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
> rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
> when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
> but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of
> my
> logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the
> days.
> Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
> account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
> tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
> have not tested anything yet.
> I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
> blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
> doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
> Pierce? Pretty active there.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stephane Faroult
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