RE: Good DBA vs. Bad DBA

So those who refuse advancement and later feel differently, if they find themselves tainted at their current company they move on. I'm not sure I see the difference from what you did.

The best places I've worked have been those that didn't automatically view a management job as a promotion. I've seen senior techies working for mid-level managers, where the techie outranked the manager (based on job codes) and made more money. In theory, the manager might be able to force demands onto the tech guy. But in practice that attempt would simply end the arrangement, with the manager likely the loser.

The top manager (CEO) will always outrank the top tech by a wide margin, but there are plenty of career managers who will never outearn or outrank the top techies.

Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Don't be so sure,
Many people don't want to advance 'right now'. Many would prefer to wait until later. I was personally pushed into management too early and chose to leave the company. Demotion would have pretty much destroyed my credibility at that company, however ( as Patrice said ) if I'd stayed in my old job and refused the promotion I'd have been written off as an unambitious underachiever. Employers don't want people who'll settle for what they've got.
For all of the "I'm a techie and fiercely proud of it" rhetoric that I often hear very few people (I hope) would choose to close the door on any possibility of future promotion at their company. Only an idiot would deny themselves a choice.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
Sent: 08 May 2002 16:48
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Good, then they will not get more offers and will go on doing the thing that they like.

That is the purpose of refusing advancement.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:53 PM

> When people refuse a promotion they are sometimes labeled as "not
interested
> in progressing."
>
> Then their reputation is tainted.
>
> Regards,
> Patrice Boivin
> Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
>

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