It all depends on the background of the Manager -
where have they built there careers as a Manager. My
current Manager wanted me to check some info using
TOAD as ORACLE was not able to answer her questions. I
work for a MNC that is known thru out the world.
Fazal
- Jared.Still_at_radisys.com wrote:
> I'm going to chime in on Dennis with this.
>
> Good managers are frequently not technical.
>
> Bad managers are frequently technical. They tend to
>
> micro manage. My belief is that it is because they
> don't really know how to manage.
>
> There are exceptions: I had an excellent manager at
> a previous job. He went from tech to management and
> does well at both. Rare, but possible.
>
> Jared
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>
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> Greg - Thanks for taking a stab at it. In reflecting
> on the managers I've
> had over the years, I disagree with your first
> point. Some of my worst
> managers have been those that did well at technical
> work, but couldn't
> manage. Some of my best managers have been
> non-technical. They couldn't do
> my job or second-guess me, so were forced to
> concentrate asking the right
> questions. They also spent more time outside the
> group building bridges
> with
> other departments/managers/users so people outside
> our department thought
> we
> were supporting them. This greatly diffused the
> antagonism between I.S.
> and
> the rest of the company.
> The other points are cute and true.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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> Good Manager: Worked their way up from programmer
> to DBA to manager.
> Bad Manger: Little technical experience, didn't
> like programming.
>
> Good Manager: Patience of a Saint.
> Bad Manager: Rules by the Tantrum Method.
>
> Good Manager: You walk away from a meeting
> thinking, "That's a good
> idea."
> Bad Manager: You walk away from a meeting thinking,
> "From now on I'll
> keep
> the real work to myself, and only ask for an opinion
> about what colors to
> use on the screens."
>
> Really Bad Manager: "Is he color blind??"
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