RE: Foreign Objects in the System Tablespace.

I was not referring to you personally Paul. I obviously have no idea what you set your pctincrease to.

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Paul R.
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:22 PM
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Hello,

Well, I'm puzzled. I have pctincrease set to 0, so I guess I'm not 'scared'. And I see nothing wrong in having DBSNMP under SYSTEM tblsp, along with SYS and SYSTEM. DBSNMP is hardly a major growth user. I have oversight of all dev/test/prod databases, so I know what's going on day to day. And the expression that you were prob. meant to use was 'you can not teach an old dog new tricks'. I certainly qualify for that, as I have been using computers (programming, proj. mgt., dba) since 1960, long enough to know better than to slight people for telling someone how they approach a situation.

Thank you,

Paul Sherman
DBA
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email - psherman_at_elcom.com

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Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:28 PM
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I am with Lisa. But then again there are folks out there who are still scared to change the pctincrease to 0 on the SYSTEM tablespace. I no longer care unless its on one of my databases. Sometimes you just can't teach a dog new tricks:-(

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Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:53 AM
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Paul, what's your reasoning behind this? I have always changed the default and temp tablespace of everything except SYS to something else. I was under the impression the SYSTEM tablespace should only hold the data dictionary.

Lisa Koivu
Oracle Database Tank Rash.
Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
954-935-4117

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sherman, Paul R. [SMTP:PSherman_at_elcom.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:29 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Foreign Objects in the System Tablespace.
>
> Jay,
>
> I always set up my production databases having SYSTEM, SYS, and DBSNMP
> with
> default tblsp of SYSTEM; SYS gets temp tblsp of TEMP. Users like ORACLE,
> OUTLN, TRACESVR, ORDSYS, etc. get TOOLS tblsp for default (and TEMP for
> temp
> tblsp). I have never had any problems doing it this way.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Paul Sherman
> DBA
> voice - 781-501-4143 (office)
> fax - 781-278-8341 (office)
> email - psherman_at_elcom.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> I am trying to determine what Oracle "officially" considers foreign
> objects in the SYSTEM tablespace. If you check out Note 122669.1, section
> 7.1, Oracle recommends a query to find foreign objects in your system
> tablespace. This query will report such users as:
>
> AURORA$JIS$UTILITY$
> CTXSYS
> MDSYS
> ORDSYS
> OSE$HTTP$ADMIN
> OUTLN
>
> It is part of our normal procedures to setup a TOOLS tablespace, and set
> this as the default tablespace for the user SYSTEM. Objects such as
> SQLPLUS_PRODUCT_PROFILE will be created in this tablespace. I've browsed
> around MetaLink and posted in one of the forums, but I'm not really
> getting
> any concrete answers as to which users should be permitted to have objects
> in the SYSTEM tablespace. I do know that it is OK to move OUTLN to
> another
> tablespace.
> Comments would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
>
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