Paul,
I know what. . . to prevent whining in the future, suggest creating a hidden
file for the rollback tablespace on /u004 and a soft link from the proper
location. No wait, don't do that, they might go for it. ;)
Mike
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Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:53 AM
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What happens when you run out of disk space on a mount point? It
happened to me. I created a new datafile on another mount point, and
then had to hear staff DBAs whining, "why is there a rollback segment
tablespace file on /u004?", as though it was a major disaster. Really,
when people get into this mindset of "file A MUST be in directory B",
they lose all sight of what they should be doing (ensuring a smoothly
running database) and concentrate more on whether every file is in the
right place so that they don't have to query the data dictionary.
OK, I feel better now. :-)
- Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> I had an SA teach me that one, and it's saved me from making a REALLY
> stupid mistake a number of times.
>
> As for your client's standards, I can see why they want to impose
> standards and that's a good thing. But they are a bit too rigid with
> it, as others have said, what happens if you run out of disk space on
> a
> mount point?
>
> I probably have bored most of the people on this list to death with
> this, but I still believe that the ONLY way to make sure if a
> datafile
> is part of the database is to query the database. All you need is one
> forgetful person who misplaces or misnames a file.
>
> Rachel
>
> --- Paul Baumgartel <treegarden_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > That's a great idea. Henceforth I'm going to do the same! Thanks.
> >
> >
> > --- Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > and, on a Unix box, I ALWAYS do an "fuser" before deleting a
> file.
> > > Just
> > > in case.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Jonathan Gennick <listmail_at_gennick.com> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 07:43:34 -0800, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Great point. I had recently created a DB file and forgot to
> put
> > > the
> > > > ".dbf"
> > > > >extension on it. If someone didn't query the DD of the DB
> > first,
> > > > they might
> > > > >have thought it was a junk/temp file (they would have to
> ignore
> > > the
> > > > file's
> > > > >timestamp) and deleted it.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, naming convention or no, I can't imagine not looking
> > > > at v$datafile or dba_datafiles just to be sure.
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