RE: client/desktop management from network / was: Re: Net 8 insta

Eric:

Thanks for your reply. We use Dell desktops here and have a state contract with Dell. I'll have our Lan people check with Dell.

Have a good one.

Ron

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consider an alternative (maybe for future):

use the network to standardize desktop settings, but not to store/run the executable.

there is software that will "vacuum" custom client/desktop settings from the network side, and allow you to deploy those settings (elsewhere).

sort of like "Ghost" on steroids.

(this is being studied here to rapidly re/deploy OS images and "standard loads" in university computer labs.)

eg, here is a product that our Dell rep brought in for a demo:

  http://www.altiris.com/

(I think at an educational discount, they were talkin' something like $60,000 for 2,000 nodes?)

note: Dell, IBM (and probably Compaq/etc.) have similar capabilities, in the case of IBM, it is (suppposedly) "bundled" with all Netvista desktops, but watch out, in many instances the hardware-vendor desktop management stuff only does limited OS/BIOS type stuff, not applications.

(eg, http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/pc/um/index.html )

due to the design/setup overhead involved, it is probably not worth setting up such stuff *just* for the Oracle client, but maybe you can get your LAN people to look into it long term for general use, and then use it for Oracle client stuff also?

you would probably want to have WoL capable boxes.

regards,
ep

ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2002, Number 086
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>
> From: Rodd Holman <roddholman_at_HotPOP.com>
> Date: 26 Mar 2002 13:18:12 -0600
> Subject: Re: Net 8 installation on a server rather than client
> question
>
> I did this for a while with the 7.3 client. Performance was abysmal.
> My network admin also was on my case about network traffic. I don't
> know if the Net8 client would be better or not. Pointing TNS_ADMIN to
> a network drive is great, but unless there have been significant
> changes in the client, I would be more inclined to have it local.
>
> What I did for the network install was to set up a machine installing
> the client to a network drive. Exported the registry key for Oracle.
> Copied the Windows system files to a network location. Added that
> location to the PATH variable. It was cumbersome, but it worked. On
> the other machines I imported the registry file, added the PATH
> variable, and TNS_ADMIN variable.
>
> The problem with all this is when you upgrade the client, you have to
> upgrad all the user registries with the new keys and structure changes
> that Oracle makes. You may as well install each machine.

...

> On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 09:18, Ron Cetnar wrote:
> Question to the list. Is there was way to install Net 8 on a nt
> server and have client pc's execute the Net 8 from
> the server instead of loading Net 8 on the client's pc. To avoid
> installation of Net 8 on the clients. I already have
> the tnsnames.ora file on the server and with a bat file that updates
> the registry on the client to point to the server
> to get the tnsnames file.

...

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