RE: Oracle Tunning

From: K Gopalakrishnan <kaygopal_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 03:10:52 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.00403027.20020201030713@fatcity.com>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I cannot resist anymore. I was the one who raised this issue in this list and few other discussion groups…in which few of Rich’s colleagues also participate. It is one of the incorrect irrelevant books in the Oracle Performance Tuning. I can find ludicrous errors in every chapter (well.. some times in every page) .. Not typo errors but also conceptual errors. Even the one you are mentioning (using X$BH table to monitor buffer use). It is another immature recommendation (in case if you are mentioning the one explained as “TIP” in page 607. It is a bunch of printed papers nicely bound as a book sometime I use it to keep my laptop to adjust the height while working with the docking station.

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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I had written to Rich long back (when he published the book) pointing all these errors and got a reply from Rich saying “It is my first book. It will be corrected in my next edition”. We have discussed this in a big way in this list (Me, Yong Huang, and few others). If you have time you can search those mails in the archives of the lists…

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From: root_at_fatcity.com
[mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of SARKAR, Samir
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002
2:25 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Oracle Tunning

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Well
Mogens, Niemiec's book does have its plus points as well. What we basically want from Oracle

is
improved response times and faster performance........which is all about how many hits we r getting

and
improving the hit ratio is something any DBA will try to attain.

There
is a wonderful technique in his book about how to estimate the size of the db_block_buffers

by
mythically raising it by a certain amount and checking the hit ratio or decreasing it and checking

the
impact. This way, we can arrive at an optimum value for the db_block_buffers.

How to
interpret the UTLESTAT/UTLBSTAT statistics r very clearly and lucidly explained as r the various

join
methods, improper use of indexes including index suppression, using the x$bh table to monitor buffer use,

a very
clear explanation of the Explain Plan, new tips for Oracle 8/8i, how to use PL/SQL for better performance etc.

The
best part is the book has lots of very useful queries and screen reprints to help us understand the

scenario
better.

Am not
saying that it is the best tuning book in the market but the techniques of tuning r very clearly explained

in it.

Tuning
by wait events is still very arcane and not explained clearly exactly how to do it in many books though

I
haven't read the 101 book. I still find it difficult to properly interpret all the various wait events and latch contention

and how
to go about tuning them And until Steve Adams comes out with his advanced performance tuning book,

we will
all have to wait.

Samir

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mogens Nørgaard
[mailto:mln_at_miracleas.dk]
Sent: 31 January 2002 18:39
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Subject: Re: Oracle Tunning

Commit; :-)

In my opinion, you shouldn't spend your money on buying the Niemich book. It's full of errors (increase the buffer cache hit ratio, for instance) and the wrong approach (no time-based measurement method, just checklist after checklist).

Buy 101 by Gaja. Then buy Tom Kyte's One-On-One book for general fantastic advise on anything. Then go to oraperf.com (Anjo), hotsos.com (Millsap), ixora.com.au (Steve Adams) and Jonathan Lewis' website (can never remember the adresse). Or go to MiracleAS.dk and find all these links, including the book links.

Mogens
Miracle A/S
Denmark

Farnsworth, Dave wrote:

<pre style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.0in;margin-bottom:0in;
margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt' wrap="">Binay,

I totally agree with this recommendation from Jared for a tuning book. Read the first three chapters, stop and re-read them. And if you play your cards right you can even get a question answered by an author on this list. Cool, eh.

Dave

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Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 3:05 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Start with 'Oracle Performance Tuning 101', available at an amazon.com near you.

Jared

On Tuesday 29 January 2002 09:10, BINAY.KUMAR_at_ponl.com wrote:<pre
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Can anyone suggest me some very good book on Oracle Tunning.<pre
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Please only<font
color=black><pre
style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:

2.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt' wrap="">mention those books which you think is really worth purchasing

Binay Kumar
Oracle Cerified DBA

London

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