I agree we need to look at both. Depends on the shop you work in if you
can though. Where I've been the SAs hold tuning of the OS close, and I
can work WITH them but can't effect changes on my own. so I concentrate
on the database.
Besides, I've always found it much more effective if I go to the SA
with a list of all the steps I've taken to ensure that the problem is
not with the database. That and I *never* say "your stuff is broken"
but rather "I have a problem, this is what I've done to find it, can
you help me"
seems to work much better that way.
- "SARKAR, Samir" <Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com> wrote:
> Okay Rachel....u have me convinced there....I am adding the 101 book
> to
> my shelf !!
>
> I said *some* of the masters of Oracle....I do realize that there r
> lots
> of other masters of Oracle who do not work for TUSC.
>
> Yep...Alomari's book does deal more on OS tuning for Oracle but don't
> u
> think
> that much of our tuning efforts always go towards the database
> whereas the
> real
> focus should b directed on the OS which houses Oracle....of course,
> it
> depends
> on case-to-case basis but I have come across so many DBAs who always
> think
> that
> the problem is with the database rather than otherwise. Other than
> Alomari's
> book,
> I haven't come across any other book which explains so well the way
> Oracle
> works
> within the OS kernel, thats the reason I thought anybody working on
> Oracle
> on Unix
> needs that book.
>
> Samir
>
> Samir Sarkar
> Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> SchlumbergerSema
> Email : samir.sarkar_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com
> samir.sarkar_at_sema.co.uk
> Phone : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6217
> EPABX : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6418 Ext. 76217
> Fax : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6018
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: 30 January 2002 19:21
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> I didn't say Rich's book is bad, just that if you could only buy one,
> I'd buy the 101 book. It's written in a more "friendly" style than
> the
> other one, mostly because that's the goal of the 101 series.
>
> Of course, since I did some of the editing on the book, I'm
> prejudiced
> (and no, I don't get any money if more copies sell)
>
> define "masters of Oracle" -- there are a heck of lot of incredibly
> brilliant Oracle users (developers and DBAs) who don't work for TUSC
>
> As for Alomari's book -- it deals more with OS tuning for Oracle than
> for performance tuning within the database.
>
>
> --- "SARKAR, Samir" <Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com> wrote:
> > Maybe u r right, Rachel.....since except for me, all the others
> have
> > suggested the 101 book. Thing is, I bought Rich's book based on the
>
> > customer reviews on Amazon and I must say that I am not
> disappointed
> > but
> > then,
> > I haven't read the 101 book. At the same time, TUSC is supposed to
> > have some
> > of the masters of Oracle.
> > One thing I wonder is why nobody has recommended Alomari's book cos
> > it is a
> > gem for DBAs working on Unix.
> >
> > Samir
> >
> > Samir Sarkar
> > Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> > SchlumbergerSema
> > Email : samir.sarkar_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com
> > samir.sarkar_at_sema.co.uk
> > Phone : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6217
> > EPABX : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6418 Ext. 76217
> > Fax : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6018
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: 30 January 2002 15:50
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > I would perhaps suggest Oracle Performance Tuning 101 instead of
> > Rich's
> > book (if you had to make a choice).
> >
> > the 101 book conforms most closely to Oracle's current thinking on
> > performance tuning
> >
> >
> > --- "SARKAR, Samir" <Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com> wrote:
> > > Practically, u should get two books to have a full grasp on
> Oracle
> > > Performance
> > > Tuning :
> > >
> > > 1. Oracle Performance Tuning Tips and Techniques by Richard
> Niemiec
> > > 2. Oracle 8i and Unix Performance Tuning by Ahmed Alomari
> > >
> > > If u r in an exceptionally high development environment where u
> > have
> > > lots of
> > > SQL tuning to do,
> > > consider buying the SQL High Performance Tuning by Don Burleson.
> > > Otherwise,
> > > the
> > > above two books should suffice for both production and
> development
> > > databases.
> > >
> > > Samir
> > >
> > > Samir Sarkar
> > > Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> > > SchlumbergerSema
> > > Email : samir.sarkar_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com
> > > samir.sarkar_at_sema.co.uk
> > > Phone : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6217
> > > EPABX : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6418 Ext. 76217
> > > Fax : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6018
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: 30 January 2002 10:25
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
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