Re: AW: auditing tables

Silly me. I was assuming a properly designed database in which all the PK's are generated. The PK never changes in such a database.

Jared

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> Is there some other reason for saving both in the audit table?

Jared,

You must be right.
But, if for some 'crazy' reason primary key of the record gets modified, then you need both old and new in audit table.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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• Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:05 AM

> On Tuesday 29 January 2002 03:00, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> > Update -- add two rows to the auditing table -- first with old values
> > and type = O
> > second with all the new values and type =N
> >
>
> Rachel,
>
> I don't think you need two rows for updates. The old values
> will be in the audit table, the new ones are in the production
> table.
>
> At least that's the way I've always done it.
>
> Is there some other reason for saving both in the audit table?
>
> Jared
>
> > --- "Foelz.Frank" <Foelz.Frank_at_Scheidt-Bachmann.de> wrote:
> > > TNX for your answers.
> > >
> > > What I need is exactly what Oracle doesn't support. Logging "who"
> > > changed
> > > "what" in a
> > > special area of our database.
> > >
> > > I think triggering the events will be much more specific and more
> > > easy to
> > > change.
> > >
> > > In case all our applications use the same database and user, I am
> > > trying to
> > > check out
> > > what application is changing monitored tables (i.e.
> > > c:\app\userapp\app.exe
> > > is changing
> > > table1).
> > > What do you think of that ??
> > >
> > > greets
> > >
> > > > Frank <
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Von: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:wisernet100_at_yahoo.com]
> > > >
> > > >what sort of information are you looking to audit? if you want any
> > > >sort of detail, you are better off with triggers and possibly an
> > >
> > > audit
> > >
> > > >table. Oracle doesn't record WHAT has been changed, just that the
> > > >table was accessed. So you don't know the row etc...
> > > >
> > > >--- "Foelz.Frank" <Foelz.Frank_at_Scheidt-Bachmann.de> wrote:
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >> does anyone have experience in using Oracle's possibilities of
> > > >> auditing
> > > >> a database ??
> > > >>
> > > >> I am interested in performance questions i.e. is it a hughe loss
> > >
> > > of
> > >
> > > >> performance
> > > >> when auditing tables Inserts/Updates/Deletes. Should I use
> > >
> > > triggers
> > >
> > > >> instead
> > > >> ?
> > > >>
> > > >> any hints (comments, websites, etc...) are welcome.
> > > >>
> > > >> > Frank <
> > > >>
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