Often, it isn't all that easy to find what you need
in "the manual". I have a enough Oracle books to make the springs in my
car sag, and sometimes, the answer just isn't there. Mostly yes, but
sometimes no. Usually, I have to go through 3 or 4 books before I find an
answer I can use. So, if the poor listee only has one or two books, perhaps he
doesn't have one that has the answer. Maybe you senior, high income
guys can send him your spare books :-) Or better yet, put a faq together
with a book list.
Ken Hitchcox
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
JoJo
Al-Zawawi
To: <A href="mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com"
title=ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 7:40
AM
Subject: RE: RTFM questions (formally RE:
PL/SQL)
No offense to
anybody, but I think this is rather arrogant. The list is for
anybody (unless the list owner decides it's just for experienced dba's). I am
brand new to Oracle, having just started learning it this week. I can
easily foresee having what some might consider stupid or RTFM questions,
and being possibly unable to find the answer or having problems deciphering
the manual. I myself am somewhat of a Word pro (and my vba code samples
page is the #1 ranked site of its kind on most major search engines) and I
help all kinds of newbies out on a Word list of which I am a member, as do all
the other members of the list. Everybody on that list is extremely
gracious and nobody complains -- and the people with questions get the help
they need, with nobody sitting back going "boy are you stupid / lazy". I
am hoping that I can get the same kind of help here, when I am ready for it,
that I and others give on other lists.
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class=870563415-29012002>--JoJo
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size=2>-----Original Message-----From: root_at_fatcity.com
[mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Craig MundaySent:
Monday, January 28, 2002 10:20 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-LSubject: RTFM questions (formally RE:
PL/SQL)
The problem is that if you always ask the group for help, you
never learn where the information is within the manuals or other reference
documentation and the group also gets cluttered with trivia.
I agree with you that the list is here to help people and I
personally do not mind the odd naive question from a new DBA, but it is the
"...can't be bothered to look up the manual.." attitude that is most
frustrating. When you ask the format of a command (for example) to the
list, you are potentionally asking 1000's of people the same question who will
all have to spend the time to filter these questions - we are all busy people
and I personally do not want to use my time in this way. I'm sure you
can see that this is a much more expensive option than asking the person next
to you.
Cheers, <FONT
size=2>Craig.
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rabbit_at_emirates.net.ae [<A
href="mailto:rabbit_at_emirates.net.ae">mailto:rabbit_at_emirates.net.ae]
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 2:55 PM <FONT
size=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <FONT
size=2>Subject: RE: PL/SQL
Why do you bother being on this List: The list is here to help
fellow DBA'S. Have you never said to one of your
collegues , what is the format of this command, or how
can I do that, when you simply cant be bothered to <FONT
size=2>look it up in the manual (either your busy or just down right
lazy): Sometimes this list is useful for just that. So
why dont u lighten up dude.
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