Re: The OCP bar is being raised

I'm thinking of changing my handle to obviousman?  

rgramolini_at_tax.state.vt.us wrote:

  Should we parse you handle, O,rant, DBA. That's it! R----- Original Message -----To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:03 AM   

    Hi all,The oca exams are the same exams you would take on the way to being anOCP under the current program. The only difference is along the way youcan get a designation of OCA. Not unlike Microsofts MCP.JohnChris.Bowes_at_kosa.com wrote:     

      From the website:--To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass allrequired exams--in your selected job role, including those at the Associate level.The way I read that, you have to have the OCA exams before you can getthe OCP.  So if you take and pass the OCP, until you pay for and passthe OCA, you cannot get the OCP certificat and recognition and youcannot even take the OCM.--Chris    -----Original Message-----    From: SARKAR, Samir [mailto:Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com]    Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:28 AM    To: 'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'    Cc: 'Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com'    Subject: RE: The OCP bar is b
eing raised    Chris,    Am not clear on  this. To b an OCP, we require to pass 5    exams....right ?? So, if we get the    OCP Associate after passing 2 exams, we need to pass only another    3 exams for getting OCP    or do we have to go through all the 5 exams all over again ??    I think we can directly sit for the OCP tests though instead of    going through the OCA. But to get the    OCP Master, we will necessarily have to b a OCP.    Do correct me if I am wrong though.    Regards,    Samir    Samir Sarkar    Oracle DBA - Lennon Team    Schlumberger Sema    Email :  samir.sarkar_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com                samir.sarkar_at_sema.co.uk    Phone : +44
 (0) 115 - 95 76217    EPABX : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6418 Ext. 76217    Fax : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6018        -----Original Message-----        From: Bowes, Chris [mailto:Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com]        Sent: 10 January 2002 15:05        To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L        Subject: RE: The OCP bar is being raised        I'd say the cost is being raised.  Look at the requirements        for each.  You can't just take the OCM exam.  No we would        first have to get the OCA.  Whether or not we need the entry        level cert we have to have it.  Then, and only then, can we        take the OCP.  Then and only then, can we take the OCM and        that is after we take these REQUIRED classes from Oracle Ed.        So someone the caliber of Steve Adams or Jared Still, has to        spend money in a class that they could probably teach fr
om        memory before they can get certification and that is after        getting 2 other certs that have no value to them.  Call me a        cynic, but to me, this is nothing but a money grab.        From the website:        --To become an Oracle Associate, you must pass the exams
      
      
      required
      
        
                  -- for the Oracle Associate level of your selected job role.        Typically,        --two exams are required; the first one can be taken via the        Internet,        --while subsequent exams must be taken in a proctored        environment. By        --completing your Oracle Associate, you are half-way toward        achieving the        -- Oracle Certified Professional credential.        --To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass        all required exams        --in your selected job role, including those at the Associate        level.        --To become an Oracle Certified Master, you must first be an        Oracle        --Certified Professional. Additionally, achieving your OCM        credential        --requires attending two advanced level Oracle University        courses from        --the list shown on this page as well as pas
sing the OCM        Practicum exam.        --Chris        -----Original Message-----        From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com [ mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com ]        Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:16 AM        To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L        Subject: The OCP bar is being raised        Anyone care to comment on the following, IMHO it's about time:
          
          
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