Took the time and spent the money - I'm an OCM (Enterprise Scalable mojo).
Haven't had a need to flash the certificate at any interviews thus far
(possibly because I haven't interviewed), so it's been mostly for self
gratification. I got the Master certificate last year, so didn't have to
take any exams, other then the standard 5 for OCP, simply attended the
classes. Btw, the minimum is three classes, with two being part of the path
you choose, and a third being mandatory Data Modeling. Or at least it was
that way last year.
I've been "Certified" since 8, but never bothered with 8i upgrade, and not
planning to spend (read: waste) time on 8i, 9i, etc.
Overall, I've found certification to be a useful experience, since during
the process I "uncovered" Oracle features which were new to me. It looks
good on a resume, but I hope that it never becomes a deciding factor.
Gary Weber
Senior DBA
Charles Jones, LLC||Superior Information Services, LLC
609-530-1144, ext 5529
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How many people outhere that you know do actually have
OCM. Not ORACLE employees.
Just curious...
Regards,
Viktor
- "Bowes, Chris" <Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com> wrote:
> Maybe I am completely misreading this. However, I
> didn't see the 8 to 9 OCP
> upgrade and that is why I said, you'll have to take
> them over again. If I
> am completely out to lunch and this is just a re-org
> of the Masters and OCP
> and those 8 OCP can get OCM with 2 classes and a
> test, then I apologize for
> wasting your time and bandwidth, but from what I
> read (and it was a quick
> read) even if you are 8 OCP, you still have to have
> the 9 OCA and OCP before
> you can get the 9 OCM.
>
> --Chris
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:41 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Of course, those of us who already have the OCP and
> want to be called a
> 'master'
> just need to take the 2 required courses and then
> the OCM exam.
>
> When looking at the details, they just split the
> previous 5 exam OCP into
> two tiers,
> a 2 exam OCA, and a 2 exam OCP which has the OCA as
> a prerequisite.
>
> The Oracle Master was always available, but without
> a test -- it just
> required taking ILT courses. They just added a
> practicum exam to
> make the OCM cert.
>
> I can see your point about this being a 'money
> grab', but the only new item
> here is the OCM practicum exam -- everything else
> existed for 8 and 8i.
>
> -Joe
>
> At 07:05 AM 1/10/02 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >I'd say the cost is being raised. Look at the
> requirements for each. You
> >can't just take the OCM exam. No we would first
> have to get the
> >OCA. Whether or not we need the entry level cert
> we have to have
> >it. Then, and only then, can we take the OCP.
> Then and only then, can we
> >take the OCM and that is after we take these
> REQUIRED classes from Oracle
> >Ed. So someone the caliber of Steve Adams or Jared
> Still, has to spend
> >money in a class that they could probably teach
> from memory before they
> >can get certification and that is after getting 2
> other certs that have no
> >value to them. Call me a cynic, but to me, this is
> nothing but a money
> grab.
> >
> > From the website:
> >
> >--To become an Oracle Associate, you must pass the
> exams required
> >-- for the Oracle Associate level of your selected
> job role. Typically,
> >--two exams are required; the first one can be
> taken via the Internet,
> >--while subsequent exams must be taken in a
> proctored environment. By
> >--completing your Oracle Associate, you are
> half-way toward achieving the
> >-- Oracle Certified Professional credential.
> >
> >--To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you
> must pass all required
> >exams
> >--in your selected job role, including those at the
> Associate level.
> >
> >--To become an Oracle Certified Master, you must
> first be an Oracle
> >--Certified Professional. Additionally, achieving
> your OCM credential
> >--requires attending two advanced level Oracle
> University courses from
> >--the list shown on this page as well as passing
> the OCM Practicum exam.
> >
> >--Chris
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com
> [<mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com>mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:16 AM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >Subject: The OCP bar is being raised
> >
> >Anyone care to comment on the following, IMHO it's
> about time:
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >---
> >Introducing two new levels of Oracle Certified
> Professional (OCP)
> Achievement
> >
> >A recent *IDC report on IT Education and Training
> Services quoted database
> >professionals and network engineers as the
> fastest-growing areas of
> >Professional
> >Certification. And in an October survey from
> *crn.com on Certification,
> >58% of
> >respondents said that it is very difficult to find
> qualified Oracle
> Certified
> >Professionals-Database Administrators.
> >
> >To meet this demand, we have recently introduced
> two new levels of
> >professional
> >achievement to DBAs (and soon to be released to
> Application and Java
> >Developers
> >worldwide):
> >
> >The Oracle Certified Associate (OCA) -- an
> entry-level Oracle qualification
> >requiring successful completion of two exams.
> >The Oracle Certified Master (OCM) -- an advanced
> qualification for Oracle
> >Certified Professionals (OCP), that requires
> students to take a practicum
> >exam
> >on-sitee at an Oracle University education center.
> >Visit
>
><http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.h
>
tml>http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels
> .html
> >
> >for more information
> >
> >IDC, IT Education and Training, Sept 2001
> >crn.com, Certification: What's Hot, What's Not, Oct
> 2001
>
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