RE: The OCP bar is being raised

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the website:
--To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass all required exams --in your selected job role, including those at the Associate level.
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The
way I read that, you have to have the OCA exams before you can get the OCP.  So if you take and pass the OCP, until you pay for and pass the OCA, you cannot get the OCP certificat and recognition and you cannot even take the OCM.
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  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: SARKAR, Samir   [mailto:Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com] Sent: Thursday,   January 10, 2002 10:28 AMTo: 'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'Cc:   'Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com'Subject: RE: The OCP bar is being   raised
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  Am not clear on 
  this. To b an OCP, we require to pass 5 exams....right ?? So, if we get   the
  OCP Associate after
  passing 2 exams, we need to pass only another 3 exams for getting   OCP
  or do we have to go
  through all the 5 exams all over again ??
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  I think we can directly
  sit for the OCP tests though instead of going through the OCA. But to get   the
  OCP Master, we will
  necessarily have to b a OCP.
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  Do correct me if I am
  wrong though.
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    size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Bowes, Chris     [mailto:Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com]Sent: 10 January 2002     15:05To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject:     RE: The OCP bar is being raised
    I'd say the cost is being raised.  Look at the     requirements for each.  You can't just take the OCM exam.  No we     would first have to get the OCA.  Whether or not we need the entry     level cert we have to have it.  Then, and only then, can we take the     OCP.  Then and only then, can we take the OCM and that is after we take     these REQUIRED classes from Oracle Ed.  So someone the caliber of Steve     Adams or Jared Still, has to spend money in a class that they could probably     teach from memory before they can get certification and that is after     getting 2 other certs that have no value to them.  Call me a cynic, but     to me, this is nothing but a money grab.     From the website:
    --To become an Oracle Associate, you must pass the exams     required -- for the Oracle Associate level of your     selected job role. Typically, --two exams are     required; the first one can be taken via the Internet, <FONT     size=2>--while subsequent exams must be taken in a proctored environment. By     --completing your Oracle Associate, you are half-way     toward achieving the -- Oracle Certified     Professional credential.
    --To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass     all required exams --in your selected job role,     including those at the Associate level.     --To become an Oracle Certified Master, you must first be an     Oracle --Certified Professional. Additionally,     achieving your OCM credential --requires attending     two advanced level Oracle University courses from <FONT     size=2>--the list shown on this page as well as passing the OCM Practicum     exam.
    --Chris
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    href="mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com">mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com] <FONT     size=2>Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:16 AM To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: The     OCP bar is being raised
    Anyone care to comment on the following, IMHO it's about     time: <FONT

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