RE: The OCP bar is being raised

From: SARKAR, Samir <Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 07:43:18 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.003EC5CC.20020110072534@fatcity.com>

Chris,

Am not clear on this.
To b an OCP, we require to pass 5 exams....right ?? So, if we get the
OCP Associate after passing
2 exams, we need to pass only another 3 exams for getting OCP
or do we have to go through
all the 5 exams all over again ??

I think we can directly sit
for the OCP tests though instead of going through the OCA. But to get the
OCP Master, we will
necessarily have to b a OCP.

Do correct me if I am wrong
though.

Regards,
Samir

Samir Sarkar
Oracle DBA - Lennon
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-----Original Message-----From: Bowes, Chris [mailto:Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com]Sent: 10 January 2002 15:05To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: The OCP bar is being raised
 I'd say the cost is being raised. Look at the requirements for each. You can't just take the OCM exam. No we would first have to get the OCA. Whether or not we need the entry level cert we have to have it. Then, and only then, can we take the OCP. Then and only then, can we take the OCM and that is after we take these REQUIRED classes from Oracle Ed. So someone the caliber of Steve Adams or Jared Still, has to spend money in a class that they could probably teach from memory before they can get certification and that is after getting 2 other certs that have no value to them. Call me a cynic, but to me, this is nothing but a money grab.
 From the website:
 --To become an Oracle Associate, you must pass the exams required -- for the Oracle Associate level of your selected job role. Typically, --two exams are required; the first one can be taken via the Internet, --while subsequent exams must be taken in a proctored environment. By --completing your Oracle Associate, you are half-way toward achieving the -- Oracle Certified Professional credential.
 --To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass all required exams --in your selected job role, including those at the Associate level. --To become an Oracle Certified Master, you must first be an Oracle --Certified Professional. Additionally, achieving your OCM credential --requires attending two advanced level Oracle University courses from --the list shown on this page as well as passing the OCM Practicum exam.

--Chris
 -----Original Message----- From:
 dgoulet_at_vicr.com [<A
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 Anyone care to comment on the following, IMHO it's about time: <FONT

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Introducing two new levels of Oracle Certified Professional (OCP) Achievement A recent *IDC report on IT Education and Training Services quoted database professionals and network engineers as the fastest-growing areas of Professional Certification. And in an October survey from *crn.com on Certification, 58% of respondents said that it is very difficult to find qualified Oracle Certified Professionals-Database Administrators. To meet this demand, we have recently introduced two new levels of professional achievement to DBAs (and soon to be released to Application and Java Developers worldwide): The Oracle Certified Associate (OCA) -- an entry-level Oracle qualification requiring successful completion of two exams. The Oracle Certified Master (OCM) -- an advanced qualification for Oracle Certified Professionals (OCP), that requires students to take a practicum exam on-sitee at an Oracle University education center. Visit <A target=_blank href="http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.html">http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.html for more information IDC, IT Education and Training, Sept 2001 crn.com, Certification: What's Hot, What's Not, Oct 2001 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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