Re:RE: Oracle Future???

From: <dgoulet_at_vicr.com>
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 11:48:58 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.003EA0FB.20020108111954@fatcity.com>

Mladen,

Companies that want to lock themselves in to anything MicroSoft do in fact exist. I've interviewed with a couple, one of which did in fact whiter & die due to failure to release their product in time. That was related to their customers not being so enchanted with everything MicroSoft. The other is still out there, but I doubt it will last long now. At any rate they do exist and will continue to do so, even if for only a moment. Doesn't bother MicroSoft, a sale once made in a bird in the hand.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Gogala; Mladen" <MGogala_at_oxhp.com>
Date:       1/8/2002 10:40 AM

Microsoft is trying to win a significant market share in the database arena for years and could never get anywhere. I see much more significant threat in MySQL and PosgresSQL because they are rapidly gaining popularity. As a matter of fact, MySQL has approximately as much of a market share as SQL Server and that is really disastrous for the SQL Server.
There are two problems with the SQL server, besides the stability of the underlying platform :

Lack of features (poor row level locking, lock escalation, Transact/SQL being much, much weaker then PL/SQL, lack of support for Java and objects, poor connectivity to anything except other Microsoft products, generally poor performance, making it possible for oracle to ridicule it with "challenges")
The fact that it runs on one platform only. If a company wants to have a decently sized database, it is highly unlikely that NT 2000 will be the platform of choice for such a server. HP 9000, SUN, RS6000 and AS400 are much more probable solutions and guess what: SQL Server doesn't run on those. Unless there is an idiot CIO willing to lock his company into a single-vendor solution without the slightest possibility of changing platforms without having to sign a very big check, chances for making a sale are virtually null. If there is such a CIO, then the company will wither and die on it's own and is not a good client.

What are we panicking about? Microsoft is losing the server ground to Linux and win XP
is allegedly the worst edition ever when it comes to stability and security. Microsoft
has been found a monopoly and a remedy has yet to be decided. A rumor mill trying the
usual FUD tactics has failed to work before and will fail again. Oracle will probably
lower the prices and once again increase the market share. I've been reading about Microsoft
winning on the database market for a 5 or 6 years by now and, so far, Microsoft hasn't even
been able to significantly threaten oracle dominance.

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Um... What threat?

Consider the source.

Jared

                    Denham Eva

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Hi Folks,

Wonder if anyone would like to comment, my MSSQL DBA sent me a couple of emails from a MSSQL mailing list, they were discussing the future of MSSQL.

Some of the comments included comments about our DB - Oracle. I've added two here...

...With Hyperion been seriously challenged and overrun by Analysis Services, oracle will completely die out as they integrate their current offering into Oracle9i. ....

...Oracle will become another Apple: 5% market share. ...

Do you guys agree? Is Oracle doing anything about the very serious threat that MSSQL is placing on their market share?

No, plans of changing personally, but wondering if cross education won't be beneficial:)

Regards
Denham

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