Gee, I thought I was the only one.
Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
Technology Services | Services technologiques
Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique
Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO
E-Mail: boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca
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Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 5:15 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: RE: database administration questions
or as Marlene, Jim and I not so jokingly ask in DBA 101 (if you can
answer yes to most of these, you have what it takes to become an Oracle
DBA):
Are you able to function at top efficiency with little or no sleep -
possibly for days at a time?
Do you like getting phone calls in the middle of the night that aren't
a wrong number?
Do you enjoy being the "invisible" person in your organization, that
is, until something goes wrong?
Do you enjoy life under a microscope?
Do you enjoy long lines of people outside your door?
Do you enjoy spending time filling out electronic iTARs in the off
chance that a human being will actually pick them up, read, and respond
to them in a "timely manner?"
Do you love solving puzzles that make no sense?
Is your favorite weekend meal Twinkies and Coca-Cola, and do you view
pizza as a seven-day-a-week healthy meal plan?
Do you love being on a perpetual steep learning curve?
Do you enjoy the challenge of moving between different computer
platforms?
Do you believe that you'll have enough time to teach yourself <fill in
the blank> (possible choices: XML, 9i, PL/SQL, Built-in Packages, Java,
etc.)?
- Jared.Still_at_radisys.com wrote:
>
> Yeah, once they find out this job isn't a cakewalk, they vanish.
>
> For those that:
>
> * live for challenge
> * are afraid of nothing and not intimidated by complexity
> * make that, 'love complexity' ;)
> * can't forget about a problem until it's fixed
> * willing to RTFM til they drop
> * design and execute tests to understand how things work
> * RTFM some more
> * drive technology. Hey, there's more to a good DBA than databases.
> * did I mention RTFM?
> * learn from their mistakes
> * admit they make mistakes
> * RTFM to minimize mistakes
>
> All others need not apply.
>
> Jared
>
> "No guts, no glory" ;)
>
>
>
>
>
> "Kimberly
>
> Smith" To: Multiple recipients
> of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> <ksmith2_at_myfirs cc:
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> tlink.net> Subject: RE: RE:
> database administration questions
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> 12/27/01 09:00
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> Please respond
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> to ORACLE-L
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> You need to find some new cooks then.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> dgoulet_at_vicr.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:50 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> In our shop we've tried the cross training tact. Problem was that
> those
> who
> accepted the challenge could not take the heat, so they left the
> kitchen.
> Damn!!!
>
> Dick Goulet
>
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: "CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <clchan_at_nie.edu.sg>
> Date: 12/26/2001 4:50 PM
>
> I quite agree with Kimberly. I used to be a full-fledge Oracle
> programmer
> but wanted to dabble with database administration. I asked my boss
> whether
> I
> could be a database administrator. His answer is yes but I still need
> to
> maintain my current systems. Now, I am a database
> administrator-cum-programmer. I support turnkey projects, automate
> processes for my users, maintain current projects, install/maintain
> database
> & support Oracle Applications etc.
>
> Prepare for lots of OT but what the heck, U will get to learn a lots
> of
> interesting things in the process ....
>
> New Bees
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kimberly Smith
> [mailto:ksmith2_at_MYFIRSTLINK.NET]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:40 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: database administration questions
>
> If you work on a site like I do you could always
> cross
> train. I am always
> looking for suckers (um, people) to be my backup.
> Right
> now
> I use one from
> the Unix team and one from the development team. Its
> the
> only way I get to
> take vacations and what no. Check with your current
> DBA
> and
> see if they are
> willing to train you while you are off doing your
> 'real'
> job. Of course,
> there are some folks who are worried about job
> security (or
> are just
> assholes)
> and they would not give you the time of day. You
> don't
> want
> to learn from
> those folks anyway. The excuse, "I'm too busy" is
> not
> really valid either.
> Training someone allowed me to offload some of my
> work.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> dgoulet_at_vicr.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:30 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> With your current background, your more likely to
> land a
> job
> as a network
> administrator LONG before you'll end up in a database
> position. Access is
> still
> looked on as a single user system and frankly I
> haven't run
> into any large
> scale
> applications that use it, period. One of my current
> tasks
> is working with a
> forecasting package that states in the manual that
> Access
> should only be
> used
> for the demos. Any other application of the package
> should
> use Oracle or
> DB2.
> Also a SPC (Statistical Process Control, for those
> who
> don't
> know, don't ask
> further) package we're evaluating (actually two of
> them)
> won't work with
> Access
> even for the demos. Therefore, I'd suggest staying
> with
> the
> networking
> world.
> It will be around as long as database administration,
> if
> not
> longer. Your
> already trained and certified, and getting a Cisco
> certification is no small
> feat. If you really want to move into database
> admin, your
> probably looking
> at
> 2 to 3 years of learning and smaller paychecks as you
> pay
> your dues.
>
> BTW: A database restore usually takes a lot longer
> than
> fixing a network
> outage,
> to boot.
>
> Dick Goulet
>
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