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Yeah, once they find out this job isn't a cakewalk, they vanish.
For those that:
All others need not apply.
Jared
"No guts, no glory" ;)
"Kimberly Smith" To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> <ksmith2_at_myfirs cc: tlink.net> Subject: RE: RE: database administration questions Sent by: root_at_fatcity.co m 12/27/01 09:00 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L
You need to find some new cooks then.
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dgoulet_at_vicr.com
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:50 AM
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In our shop we've tried the cross training tact. Problem was that those
who
accepted the challenge could not take the heat, so they left the kitchen.
Damn!!!
Dick Goulet
____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: "CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <clchan_at_nie.edu.sg> Date: 12/26/2001 4:50 PM
I quite agree with Kimberly. I used to be a full-fledge Oracle programmer
but wanted to dabble with database administration. I asked my boss whether
I
could be a database administrator. His answer is yes but I still need to
maintain my current systems. Now, I am a database
administrator-cum-programmer. I support turnkey projects, automate
processes for my users, maintain current projects, install/maintain
database
& support Oracle Applications etc.
Prepare for lots of OT but what the heck, U will get to learn a lots of interesting things in the process ....
New Bees
-----Original Message----- From: Kimberly Smith [mailto:ksmith2_at_MYFIRSTLINK.NET] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: database administration questions If you work on a site like I do you could always cross train. I am always looking for suckers (um, people) to be my backup. Rightnow
the Unix team and one from the development team. Its the only way I get to take vacations and what no. Check with your current DBAand
willing to train you while you are off doing your 'real' job. Of course, there are some folks who are worried about job security (or are just assholes) and they would not give you the time of day. You don'twant
those folks anyway. The excuse, "I'm too busy" is not really valid either. Training someone allowed me to offload some of my work. -----Original Message----- dgoulet_at_vicr.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L With your current background, your more likely to land ajob
administrator LONG before you'll end up in a database position. Access is still looked on as a single user system and frankly I haven't run into any large scale applications that use it, period. One of my current tasks is working with a forecasting package that states in the manual that Access should only be used for the demos. Any other application of the package should use Oracle or DB2. Also a SPC (Statistical Process Control, for those whodon't
further) package we're evaluating (actually two of them) won't work with Access even for the demos. Therefore, I'd suggest staying withthe
world. It will be around as long as database administration, ifnot
already trained and certified, and getting a Cisco certification is no small feat. If you really want to move into database admin, your probably looking at 2 to 3 years of learning and smaller paychecks as you payyour dues.
BTW: A database restore usually takes a lot longer than fixing a network outage, to boot. Dick Goulet ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: LBanzali_at_aol.com Date: 12/23/2001 11:15 PM Hi! I'm looking into getting into the field of Database Administrating. Right now, I have experience with MS Access and have created several databases for companies that I have worked with in the past with Access. I'm looking for a jump in my career and the next logical step for me, I would think, would be in database field. However, I also have some networking knowledge (Cisco certified...). So, I'm looking into the advantages of both fields. I have some questions & I'm not sure who to ask or where to get my answers. But, here they go: Questions for a Database Administrator: 1) What is your typical workday like? 2) Do you work a lot of overtime? 3) What are the most valuable databse programs to learn? 4) If I was to look into learning these, should I take classes? Where would you recommend I look for classes in the Los Angeles area? 5) What language, if any, are important (Java, XML, Visual Basic, etc.)? 6) What programs are starting to get obsolete? 7) Is it worth it to get vendor certifications (Microsoft, Oracle)? If so, are there certain books that you recommend to study? 8) Is it worth it to get a degree? If so, what specific one? 9) Are there any other programs or technologies that are valuable to learn? 10) Are there any associations or other groups that you belong to as a DBA? 11) What kinds of companies hire DBAs? 12) What companies do you recommed to work for? Know ofany
hiring? 13) With my background, what is the best way to advance and work my way into a real DBA position? Thank you, whom ever reads this and answers back with at least some answers to some of the questions. I really appreciate your help!!! Please, respond to me at lbanzali_at_aol.com smiles, me thank you! <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Hi! <BR>I'm looking into getting into the field of Database Administrating. Right now, I have experience with MS Access and have created several databases for companies that I have worked with in the past with Access. <BR> <BR>I'm looking for a jump in my career and the nextlogical
would think, would be in database field. However, I also have some networking knowledge (Cisco certified...). So, I'm looking into the advantages of both fields. I have some questions&
who to ask or where to get my answers. But, here they go: <BR> <BR>Questions for a Database Administrator: <BR> <BR>1) What is your typical workday like? <BR>2) Do you work a lot of overtime? <BR>3) What are the most valuable databse programs to learn? <BR>4) If I was to look into learning these, should I take classes? Where would you recommend I look for classes in the Los Angeles area? <BR>5) What language, if any, are important (Java, XML, Visual Basic, etc.)? <BR>6) What programs are starting to get obsolete? <BR>7) Is it worth it to get vendor certifications (Microsoft, Oracle)? If so, are there certain books that you recommend to study? <BR>8) Is it worth it to get a degree? If so, what specific one? <BR>9) Are there any other programs or technologies thatare
learn? <BR>10) Are there any associations or other groups that you belong to as a DBA? <BR>11) What kinds of companies hire DBAs? <BR>12) What companies do you recommed to work for? Know of any currently hiring? <BR>13) With my background, what is the best way to advance and work my way into a real DBA position? <BR> <BR>Thank you, whom ever reads this and answers back withat
answers to some of the questions. I really appreciate your help!!! <BR>Please, respond to me at lbanzali_at_aol.com <BR> <BR>smiles, <BR>me <BR> <BR>thank you!</FONT></HTML> -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: dgoulet_at_vicr.com Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access /Mailing Lists
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