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That is probably true to an extent but it doesn't explain some of the messes I've seen.
Henry
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I have heard that they do this on purpose because their products have to be RDBMS neutral. They have to work on RDBMS's that don't have built-in RI.
Tom Terrian
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Does anybody else get the same feeling as me that it is not that vendors are ignoring proper data models, they don't even know what they are.
Henry
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Unfortunately it's the case way too often. Even at the enlightened place where I work, our RI is done at the application level.
Not much I can do about it. Our development is done on MySQL and then "ported" to Oracle.
--Walt Weaver
Bozeman, Montana, USA
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<RANT MODE>
BAH!! These bloody application providers leaving the integrity to their bloody applications instead of leaving it in it's rightful place in the database!!! Makes my life 10 times harder!!! Got no consideration at all have they?
</RANT MODE>
:P
Thanks!
Mark
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Linda.Miller-Coker_at_jpmorgan.com
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We use Siebel and no it does NOT have RI.
"Mark Leith" <mark_at_cool-tools.co.uk>@fatcity.com on 11/28/2001 10:56:07 AM
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Hi Gang,
Does anybody use Siebel - I believe it's a CRM package?
I'm trying to find out of the Siebel application enforces RI within the database or the application? Anybody know?
Cheers
Mark
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