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Home -> Community -> Mailing Lists -> Oracle-L -> Re: Another Oracle DBA gets "The Bullet" WAS: Help!: Job Descrip
It is the synergistic colonization of your inner lifeworld provided by the combination of the two primary forces, i.e., tequila and habaneros, which results in a glorious, uber health, state of enlightenment...
--S
"Loughmiller, Greg" wrote:
>
> OK-
> Te"kllme" is okay then... Just the habaneros is a bad thing, huh?
>
> greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:25 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Descrip
>
> That's why if you ever see a sick Texan - he/she/it is on its deathbed.
> Tequila + habaneros = health.
>
> --S
>
> "Gogala, Mladen" wrote:
> >
> > Habanero salsa as a cure for heat???? Well, I suppose you're using
> > kill or cure method down there in TX.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:25 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Descrip
> >
> > You adapt quickly. And the Gods invented air conditioning, margaritas,
> > and habanero salsa for just such environments.
> >
> > --S
> >
> > Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> > >
> > > 'cause there ain't enough money in the world to bail you out?
> > >
> > > The only problem I have with Texas is the heat. I have good friends
> > > down there (you guys all know who you are and if you don't, WAKE UP)...
> > > but I went down over Memorial Day weekend to SA and nearly melted from
> > > the humidity. This does nothing to induce me to move South.
> > >
> > > --- Jeffery Stevenson <jeff_at_mpv.com> wrote:
> > > > Bail money??? Why wasn't I invited? :)
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, like was mentioned, there's some positions available in Austin,
> > > > but
> > > > not as prevalent as it used to be. VC money has been tightened up so
> > > > a lot
> > > > of these companies looking to grow have been hit hard (and the bigger
> > > > companies are just cutting back to save money). The problem I see
> > > > though is
> > > > that companies seem to be trimming back too much. I'm starting to
> > > > hear
> > > > little rumours here and there of companies going, "Maybe we shouldn't
> > > > have
> > > > gotten rid of most of our support/operations people?" It's not bad
> > > > here
> > > > though...it'll pick back up again...and I agree it's a great place to
> > > > live.
> > > >
> > > > Guvm'nt jobs? Eep! Yeah Scott, I noticed that SA had about 4 times
> > > > as many
> > > > Oracle/DBA positions listed than Austin when I scouting the market
> > > > for a
> > > > friend who's looking at this area. That scared me...
> > > >
> > > > Jeffery Stevenson
> > > > Databeast Slayer
> > > > Medical Present Value, Inc.
> > > > Austin, TX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:30 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > Description for
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David,
> > > >
> > > > Yes you should drive down/me drive up to meet. Just let me get past
> > > > some
> > > > current difficulties. We could leave bail money with the wives!
> > > > Hehehe...
> > > >
> > > > San Antonio (SA) has been hit, but definitely not as hard as
> > > > Austin/Dallas/Houston. I'll probably regret this (if I end up
> > > > competing for
> > > > a job), but anyone looking for a job could do a lot worse than
> > > > looking in
> > > > SA. Most of the tech jobs here are government, gov/private
> > > > consulting, or
> > > > big company IT (USAA, MCI, SBC, etc). The largest industry however
> > > > is
> > > > tourism, which has been hammered. This doesn't affect techies much
> > > > though.
> > > >
> > > > If one has no qualms about managing databases of bigger and better
> > > > ways to
> > > > "break things and kill people", then DOD contracting is the way to go
> > > > in
> > > > Central Texas. Cost of living is very low, and SA is the 8th largest
> > > > city
> > > > in the US. Upsides: steady work, excellent food, mild winters, lots
> > > > of
> > > > recreational activities. Downsides: Inept city government, yearly
> > > > drought,
> > > > HOT for 9 months of the year.
> > > >
> > > > --Scott Shafer
> > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:05 PM
> > > > Description for
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks folks for the replies I got. Compiled them into a sort of
> > > > > superDeveloper/Data Architect/All-Around wonderful human being job
> > > > > description.
> > > > >
> > > > > The job market in Austin is really poor for us "high-tech" types
> > > > right
> > > > now.
> > > > > This was the home or a principal branch office of a large number of
> > > > failed
> > > > > dot coms and Internet business ventures. A partial list of Austin
> > > > failures
> > > > > includes (but is by no means limited to):
> > > > >
> > > > > Netpliance
> > > > > Hand Technologies
> > > > > ConnectSouth (my alma mater)
> > > > > DrKoop.Com
> > > > > Garden.Com
> > > > > Furniture.Com
> > > > > carOrder.Com
> > > > >
> > > > > Layoffs in many (most?) surviving companies have further added to
> > > > the glut
> > > > > of talent out on the streets. Other large Austin employers
> > > > reducing staff
> > > > > in the tech area include AMD, Motorola, SamSung, IBM, Perficient
> > > > and CSC.
> > > > > Non-tech companies such as law firms, travel agencies (they're
> > > > pretty much
> > > > > toast right now anyway), and advertising agencies have been really
> > > > hurt by
> > > > > the abrupt cessation of money which used to flow from the startups.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's still a great place to live, but a month or two ago, even the
> > > > Austin
> > > > > American-Statesman noted that the area was experiencing a
> > > > "brain-drain" as
> > > > > the job-seeker/jobs ratio climbed ever higher. Last week, they
> > > > posited
> > > > the
> > > > > major reason for the area not experiencing a total employment
> > > > tragedy was
> > > > > the abundance of State and Local jobs, which, until about 9 months
> > > > ago,
> > > > > went begging as private industry vacuumed anybody who could spell
> > > > "PC" off
> > > > > the street (if you could spell DBA you had it made).
> > > > >
> > > > > The Sunday help-wanted ads have gone from 4 full pages of "Computer
> > > > Jobs"
> > > > > to less than two columns, and there are very few senior positions
> > > > > available. We even used to have out-of-town companies advertise,
> > > > but that
> > > > > trend has dried up as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > It anin't pretty folks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe Scott (I still think I ought to drive down just to meet the
> > > > guy) in
> > > > > San Antonio can give us a more regional perspective. At the height
> > > > of the
> > > > > frenzy, I know a bunch of people who left positions in SA to come
> > > > to
> > > > > Austin.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > David A. Barbour
> > > > > Oracle DBA, OCP
> > > > > AISD
> > > > > 512-414-1002
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Troiano, Paul
> > > > > (CAP, GEFA)" To: Multiple
> > > > recipients
> > > > of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > > <Paul.Troiano_at_geca cc:
> > > > > pital.com> Subject: RE:
> > > > Help!: Job
> > > > Description for Data Architect
> > > > > Sent by:
> > > > > root_at_fatcity.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 11/12/2001 05:40
> > > > > PM
> > > > > Please respond to
> > > > > ORACLE-L
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > How is the job market in Austin?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > [mailto:DBarbour_at_austin.isd.tenet.edu]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM
> > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey, the job market isn't any better (worse?) here in
> > > > Austin-by-God, TX
> > > > > than anywhere else. We've got a chance to hire a real talented
> > > > developer
> > > > > (worked with him before - taught me a lot), but his salary is just
> > > > a bit
> > > > > more than the school district is used to paying for "programmers."
> > > > I
> > > > > suggested they come up with a new job description to justify the
> > > > salary
> > > > > (it's not that great folks - this guy just wants to stay in
> > > > Austin).
> > > > > "Wonderful idea" says the boss, "what should we call the position
> > > > to
> > > > > confuse the HR folks?" "Data Architect" I reply. "Great" says he,
> > > > "write
> > > > > it up and have it on my desk by 5:30."
> > > >
> > > === message truncated ===
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
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> > > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals
> > > http://personals.yahoo.com
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> > > Author: Rachel Carmichael
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> > >
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-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Scott Shafer INET: sknd100_at_yahoo.com Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).Received on Tue Nov 13 2001 - 14:42:04 CST
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