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Doh! Sorry for the oversite - lots on my mind lately. You're definitely invited, Jeff. We'll work sumthin' out.
--S
Jeffery Stevenson wrote:
>
> Bail money??? Why wasn't I invited? :)
>
> Yeah, like was mentioned, there's some positions available in Austin, but
> not as prevalent as it used to be. VC money has been tightened up so a lot
> of these companies looking to grow have been hit hard (and the bigger
> companies are just cutting back to save money). The problem I see though is
> that companies seem to be trimming back too much. I'm starting to hear
> little rumours here and there of companies going, "Maybe we shouldn't have
> gotten rid of most of our support/operations people?" It's not bad here
> though...it'll pick back up again...and I agree it's a great place to live.
>
> Guvm'nt jobs? Eep! Yeah Scott, I noticed that SA had about 4 times as many
> Oracle/DBA positions listed than Austin when I scouting the market for a
> friend who's looking at this area. That scared me...
>
> Jeffery Stevenson
> Databeast Slayer
> Medical Present Value, Inc.
> Austin, TX
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:30 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Description for
>
> David,
>
> Yes you should drive down/me drive up to meet. Just let me get past some
> current difficulties. We could leave bail money with the wives! Hehehe...
>
> San Antonio (SA) has been hit, but definitely not as hard as
> Austin/Dallas/Houston. I'll probably regret this (if I end up competing for
> a job), but anyone looking for a job could do a lot worse than looking in
> SA. Most of the tech jobs here are government, gov/private consulting, or
> big company IT (USAA, MCI, SBC, etc). The largest industry however is
> tourism, which has been hammered. This doesn't affect techies much though.
>
> If one has no qualms about managing databases of bigger and better ways to
> "break things and kill people", then DOD contracting is the way to go in
> Central Texas. Cost of living is very low, and SA is the 8th largest city
> in the US. Upsides: steady work, excellent food, mild winters, lots of
> recreational activities. Downsides: Inept city government, yearly drought,
> HOT for 9 months of the year.
>
> --Scott Shafer
> San Antonio, TX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:05 PM
> Description for
>
> >
> > Thanks folks for the replies I got. Compiled them into a sort of
> > superDeveloper/Data Architect/All-Around wonderful human being job
> > description.
> >
> > The job market in Austin is really poor for us "high-tech" types right
> now.
> > This was the home or a principal branch office of a large number of failed
> > dot coms and Internet business ventures. A partial list of Austin
> failures
> > includes (but is by no means limited to):
> >
> > Netpliance
> > Hand Technologies
> > ConnectSouth (my alma mater)
> > DrKoop.Com
> > Garden.Com
> > Furniture.Com
> > carOrder.Com
> >
> > Layoffs in many (most?) surviving companies have further added to the glut
> > of talent out on the streets. Other large Austin employers reducing staff
> > in the tech area include AMD, Motorola, SamSung, IBM, Perficient and CSC.
> > Non-tech companies such as law firms, travel agencies (they're pretty much
> > toast right now anyway), and advertising agencies have been really hurt by
> > the abrupt cessation of money which used to flow from the startups.
> >
> > It's still a great place to live, but a month or two ago, even the Austin
> > American-Statesman noted that the area was experiencing a "brain-drain" as
> > the job-seeker/jobs ratio climbed ever higher. Last week, they posited
> the
> > major reason for the area not experiencing a total employment tragedy was
> > the abundance of State and Local jobs, which, until about 9 months ago,
> > went begging as private industry vacuumed anybody who could spell "PC" off
> > the street (if you could spell DBA you had it made).
> >
> > The Sunday help-wanted ads have gone from 4 full pages of "Computer Jobs"
> > to less than two columns, and there are very few senior positions
> > available. We even used to have out-of-town companies advertise, but that
> > trend has dried up as well.
> >
> > It anin't pretty folks.
> >
> > Maybe Scott (I still think I ought to drive down just to meet the guy) in
> > San Antonio can give us a more regional perspective. At the height of the
> > frenzy, I know a bunch of people who left positions in SA to come to
> > Austin.
> >
> >
> > David A. Barbour
> > Oracle DBA, OCP
> > AISD
> > 512-414-1002
> >
> >
> >
> > "Troiano, Paul
> > (CAP, GEFA)" To: Multiple recipients
> of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > <Paul.Troiano_at_geca cc:
> > pital.com> Subject: RE: Help!: Job
> Description for Data Architect
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> > root_at_fatcity.com
> >
> >
> > 11/12/2001 05:40
> > PM
> > Please respond to
> > ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > How is the job market in Austin?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > [mailto:DBarbour_at_austin.isd.tenet.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey, the job market isn't any better (worse?) here in Austin-by-God, TX
> > than anywhere else. We've got a chance to hire a real talented developer
> > (worked with him before - taught me a lot), but his salary is just a bit
> > more than the school district is used to paying for "programmers." I
> > suggested they come up with a new job description to justify the salary
> > (it's not that great folks - this guy just wants to stay in Austin).
> > "Wonderful idea" says the boss, "what should we call the position to
> > confuse the HR folks?" "Data Architect" I reply. "Great" says he, "write
> > it up and have it on my desk by 5:30."
> >
> > Anybody got one I can shamelessly plagiarize?
> >
> > David A. Barbour
> > Oracle DBA, OCP
> > AISD
> > 512-414-1002
> >
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