RE: Java in the database

From: Christopher Spence <cspence_at_FuelSpot.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 06:21:08 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.003B6DB9.20011029055520@fatcity.com>

Actually the 5x faster is a third party benchmark for Orion Server before it was intergrated with Oracle.

I forget who did the benchmark, but it is on www.orionserver.com

They compared Web Logic, Tomcat, Ressin, Orion, and I believe one other.

"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Do you have first-hand experience with the performance of Orion, either within iAS or as a stand-alone servlet engine? The '5x faster' seems to come from an Oracle source, which I suspect is referring to Java stored and executed within Oracle. I'm not sure whether Orion as a stand-alone product can make the same claim. Then again I'm a DBA, not an experienced Java developer, and am finding it a bit confusing to wade thru the alphabet soup.

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I have a 3rd-party app to install that needs 'any J2EE-compliant' java servlet engine. I'm looking for something that will provide good scalability at a good price. The price is right, if Orion scales well then maybe I won't need iAS for this server since I don't need all the other goodies that comes along with it. If you have any real-world indications of scalability I'd appreciate hearing from you. Thanks.

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>>> cspence_at_FuelSpot.com 10/26/01 02:51PM >>>

Take a look at OrionServer (<a href="">www.orionserver.com) at $1,500 / server and 5x faster than Web Logic, I would wonder why people would use others. And OAS9i uses Orion as the core now.

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-----Original Message----- From: Jim Conboy
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Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001
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Subject: Re: Java in the database

Jan-

I've heard some concerns about the scalability of Tomcat as an app server. Of course, some of those concerns are voiced by guys like Oracle and BEA who have a nice little Java engine to sell you for $10-20K per CPU. I know a lot of people use Tomcat for prototypes and such, then go with one of the big boys for the production system. Have you - or anyone else - had Tomcat working in a production environment with, say, 100-200 concurrent users? Thanks.

Jim

>>> jan_at_pruner.cz 10/26/01 08:35AM >>>

PL/SQL.
Java code only on Tomcat-Jakarta (Apache).

JP

On Thu 25. October 2001 19:16, you wrote:

> Out of curiosity, is anyone using the java engine for procedural code, or 
> are most people still using PL/SQL? 
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