RE: Java in the database

From: Jim Conboy <Jim.Conboy_at_trw.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:09:55 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.003B6081.20011026121819@fatcity.com>

Christopher-
 
Do you have first-hand experience with the performance of Orion, either within iAS or as a stand-alone servlet engine?  The '5x faster' seems to come from an Oracle source, which I suspect is referring to Java stored and executed within Oracle.  I'm not sure whether Orion as a stand-alone product can make the same claim.  Then again I'm a DBA, not an experienced Java developer, and am finding it a bit confusing to wade thru the alphabet soup.
 
I have a 3rd-party app to install that needs 'any J2EE-compliant' java servlet engine.  I'm looking for something that will provide good scalability at a good price.  The price is right, if Orion scales well then maybe I won't need iAS for this server since I don't need all the other goodies that comes along with it.  If you have any real-world indications of scalability I'd appreciate hearing from you.  Thanks.  
Jim
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I've heard some concerns about the scalability of Tomcat as an app server.  Of course, some of those concerns are voiced by guys like Oracle and BEA who have a nice little Java engine to sell you for $10-20K per CPU.  I know a lot of people use Tomcat for prototypes and such, then go with one of the big boys for the production system.  Have you - or anyone else - had Tomcat working in a production environment with, say, 100-200 concurrent users?  Thanks.

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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim>>> jan_at_pruner.cz 10/26/01 08:35AM >>>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">PL/SQL. Java code only on Tomcat-Jakarta (Apache).
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">On Thu 25. October 2001 19:16, you wrote: > Out of curiosity, is anyone using the java engine for procedural code, or > are most people still using PL/SQL? > > Regards,

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