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Here's an interesting link:
http://hometown.aol.com/merryeee/ibmstory.htm
However, the story it tells is a little biased. The Hollerith company sold unit record machines to the Weimar Republic, as well as many other governments (including the US), for census purposes. My one-time neighbor in Annapolis, Mrs. Simon Kaplan, had been a Hollerith programmer up until 1933. She and her husband left Berlin in 1933 and Paris in 1940, finally fetching up in Annapolis. They were both Jewish.
A national ID card has great potential for abuse and I find it hard to believe that governments (both Federal and local), commercial firms, and individuals will be able to resist that abuse. How long do you think it will be before you have to swipe your ID card at the grocery store before you can cash a check or use your credit card -- all in the name of crime prevention of course. Who would object, unless they were a criminal?
Even worse (IMHO) is that it will allow one-stop-shopping for hackers and terrorists. Hack or bribe your way into the database and no-one will question your credentials. Our existing databases and personnel are not immune. Once we put all our eggs in one basket the criminal or terrorist need go no further.
I think that it's a really, really bad idea.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
IMHO - Old Ben had it exactly right.
George Hofilena To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <GHofilena <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> @cnv.org> cc: Sent by: root Subject: RE: Uncle Larry in the news 10/17/2001 06:40 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L
I saw a book in the library that told of how IBM provided computers, and
thus was mainly responsible for helping the German Nazi set up a
computerized database of Jews in Germany allowing them to systematically
and
efficiently round the Jews up.
George
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Shafer [mailto:sknd100_at_yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:35 PM
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> I guess I won't be a citizen if this goes into effect. Talk about
> rampant fascism! Not to mention kissing any vestige of civil rights
> goodbye...
>
> --Scott Shafer
> San Antonio, TX
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> > "Koivu, Lisa" wrote:
> >
> > http://www0.mercurycenter.com/local/center/id101701.htm
> >
> > Lisa Koivu
> > Oracle Data BORED Administrator
> > Fairfield Resorts, Inc. (Right across from a post office that had an
> > anthrax scare in Margate, FL)
> > 954-935-4117
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