RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance

From: <tday6_at_csc.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 07:15:38 -0700
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It's been a while but as I remember, for WinNT 4.0, I used to use the windows network to log in to the server, put the CD-ROM in my workstation, mount that on the server as a network drive, and do the GUI install. This worked with 8.1.4.

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Are you talking NT only or install in general? On unix all you need is a decent X-windows package for your PC (Exceed, ChameleonX, Reflection X?, etc).

I've been here 3 years, installed at least 30 new systems and have never been in any of our computer rooms.
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OK, terminal services?

I agree that install is an exception. It's nearly impossible if you aren't sitting in front of the host.

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   From:   Christopher Spence [SMTP:cspence_at_FuelSpot.com]
   Sent:   Wednesday, September 26, 2001 8:45 AM
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Subject: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance

This doesn't work for NT machines, and it with Unix you cannot install 8.1.6 without X access.

"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

   Christopher R. Spence
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From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:lisa.koivu_at_efairfield.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance

What's wrong with telnetting in?
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   From:   Steven Lembark [SMTP:lembark_at_wrkhors.com]
   Sent:   Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:20 AM
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Subject: Re: Physical access to servers for maintenance

"Smith, Ron L." <rlsmith_at_kmg.com>
> Our hardware people are cracking sown on access to the computer room.
> They have decided the DBA group can do all their work without going
to
> the server itself. This includes Unix and NT server running both
Oracle
> and SQL Server. We would have to use VNC Viewer and PC Anywhere. I
am
> trying to put together a list of things we might need to do that
would
> make remote admin difficult as well as taking longer. If you have
any
> ideas I would appreciate it.
How about "Your Work"? Last time I looked it's rather hard to run svrmgrl without access to the command line. So long as you don't want to start or stop the database this probably won't have any effect. Checking free disk space is also simpler with "df". You can, perhaps, memorize the nubmber of blocks on every device and compare them to the free space reported by Oracle each morning. Simplest method would be to say "no we don't need it now, what is the pager number of someone we can use if we do need things done?" Make a point of paging them every time you need something from the shell, day or night. That person will, I'm sure, be happy to compile a list of the trivial things they've been forced to do that the DBA should have done for themselves at 3am... -- Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 +1 800 762 1582 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: <http://www.orafaq.com> -- Author: Steven Lembark INET: lembark_at_wrkhors.com Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
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