RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance

From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) <MATT.ADAMS_at_APPL.GE.COM>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 05:54:12 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00398EA9.20010926054522@fatcity.com>

Are
you talking NT only or install in general?  On unix all you need is a

decent
X-windows package for your PC (Exceed, ChameleonX, Reflection X?, etc).
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I've
been here 3 years, installed at least 30 new systems and have never
been
in any of our computer rooms.
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Koivu, Lisa   [mailto:lisa.koivu_at_efairfield.com]Sent: Wednesday, September 26,   2001 9:05 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list   ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Physical access to servers for   maintenance
  OK, terminal services?
  I agree that install is an
  exception.  It's nearly impossible if you aren't sitting in front of the   host.   

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    size=1>Christopher Spence [SMTP:cspence_at_FuelSpot.com] <FONT 
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    face=Arial size=1>RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance 

    This doesn't work for NT machines,
    and it with Unix you cannot install 8.1.6 without X access. <FONT     color=#000080 face=Arial size=2>  <FONT color=#000080     face="Times New Roman">"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in     their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have     their shoes."
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    face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>From: Koivu, Lisa [<A 
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    September 25, 2001 11:45 AM<FONT face=Tahoma     size=2>To: Multiple recipients of list     ORACLE-LSubject:<FONT
    face=Tahoma size=2> RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance       <FONT color=#0000ff

    face=Georgia>What's wrong with telnetting in?  <FONT 
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    size=1>From:   <FONT face=Arial 
    size=1>Steven Lembark [SMTP:lembark_at_wrkhors.com]<FONT 
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    size=1>Sent:   <FONT face=Arial 
    size=1>Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:20 AM<FONT 
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    face=Arial size=1>Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<FONT 
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    for maintenance <FONT
    face="Times New Roman">  -- "Smith,     Ron L." <rlsmith_at_kmg.com> <FONT
    face=Arial size=2>> Our hardware people are cracking sown on access to     the computer room.<FONT face=Arial
    size=2>> They have decided the DBA group can do all their work without     going to> the
    server itself.  This includes Unix and NT server running both     Oracle> and
    SQL Server. We would have to use VNC Viewer and PC Anywhere.  I     am> trying to
    put together a list of things we might need to do that would<FONT     face=Arial>> make remote admin
    difficult as well as taking longer.  If you have any<FONT     face=Arial>> ideas I would appreciate     it. How about
    "Your Work"? Last
    time I looked it's rather hard to run svrmgrl without access to<FONT     face=Arial>the command line.  So
    long as you don't want to start or stop the<FONT     face=Arial>database this probably won't     have any effect. <FONT face=Arial
    size=2>Checking free disk space is also simpler with "df".  You can,     perhaps,memorize
    the nubmber of blocks on every device and compare them to the<FONT     face=Arial>free space reported by Oracle     each morning. <FONT face=Arial
    size=2>Simplest method would be to say "no we don't need it now, what is     thepager number
    of someone we can use if we do need things done?"  Make<FONT     face=Arial>a point of paging them every     time you need something from the shell,<FONT     face=Arial>day or night.  That
    person will, I'm sure, be happy to compile a list<FONT     face=Arial>of the trivial things they've     been forced to do that the DBA should have<FONT     face=Arial>done for themselves at
    3am... <FONT face=Arial
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