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(Fwd) [Wall Street drives Oracle sales to screw over customers]

From: Eric D. Pierce <PierceED_at_csus.edu>
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 13:50:38 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00383E81.20010905140104@fatcity.com>

(Follow-up on the thread about [$99 OLN] training programs that suck.)

Explanation of why Larry E. is an a$$hole, and why/how Oracle uses exploitive sales tactics:

http://www.dbdomain.com/news.htm
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http://www3.gartner.com/DisplayDocument?doc_cd=100291
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Oracle's official rebuttal:

http://www.oracle.com/features/facts/index.html?gartner.html

(which conveniently ignores a lot of Gartner's main criticisms, and ends with a "in your face", probably questionable - if not scurrilous
-, slam on Gartner's motives implying that customers should
scrutinize industry analysts more than the vendors being analyzed{!?!}, but does contain a good link: http://www.cio.com/archive/071501/analyst.html .)
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additional background:

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1007-201-6375299-3.html?tag=unkn
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http://www.forbes.com/asap/2001/0528/047_print.html
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http://www.reason.com/tcs/070300.html
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http://www.forbes.com/archive/archive_index.jhtml?fullMagName=Forbes+Magazine&magVolume=&magIssue=04&magDate=08%2F20%2F2001

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2001/0820/082.html , print version:
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2001/0820/082_print.html

 (linked from: http://www.forbes.com/news/2001.shtml )
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http://www.business2.com/webguide/0,1660,33576|102|0|0|1|a,00.html
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http://www.business2.com/articles/mag/0,1640,11254,00.html
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http://www.business2.com/articles/mag/0,1640,8520,FF.html
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http://www.business2.com/webfile/0,1638,8520,00.html

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