RE: OT RE: 24 x 7 on NT?

<bowing>

Thanks for the kudos, Jon.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 5:34 PM
To: Mohan, Ross
Cc: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I see you've picked up some buzzwords like "PNG", "GPS", "nanokernel", and no doubt "warez" where you got caught trading animal ascii porn through

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your company e-mail by a bored sysadmin who had nothing better to do than to snoop on users. As for the MCSE and CISCO certified part, I cant tell if thats your attempt at sarcasm or pride :) Nice job on using multi-pathing in a completly different context though... glad to know that someone is still thinks themselves 31337.

TH4NX,
j0n

"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armor to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second- rate technology, led them into it in the first place."

• Douglas Adams

"If you have trouble sounding condescending, find a Unix user to show you how it's done."

• Scott Adams

On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Mohan, Ross wrote:

> Dear Jon,
>
> I'll get back to you when my priorities become io throughput,
> but right now...<shaking mouse>....I am having trouble...
> <banging mouse on desk>...getting this darn application...
> <clicking mouse on monitor>...to work....sheesh! Good thing
> I am an MCSE and CISCO Certified, too! :-D
>
> Right now, though, I have to get back to running my nanokernel
> SuSE on my IBM Linux WristWatch with realtime extensions to download
> the Ricochet out-of-band GPS codes to help decode the PNG data in the
> Secret Slurpee Web Site. Talk about multi-pathing! <slapping knee>
> Whoooo-eeee!
>
> I always liked SuSE's little nanokernel! <silly giggle> Didn't you?
>
> Yours in WareZ, Duuuuude,
>
> etc.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 4:14 PM
> To: Mohan, Ross
> Cc: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> No doubt that came from your redhat Linux box cause you wanted to dabble
> in playing with a real os (and I'm certainly not saying that rh isn't
> crap), till you found out that it was too "hard" cause you couldn't use
> your mouse on a console (ok, gdm, but nm that). Yet you probably tell
> others that you've used both extensively and find NT to be the "better" :)
> Why? cause you got a 2.2 kernel to install on a referb dell box? When you
> priorities become io throughput, domain utilization, rebuilding your rt
> scheduler to handle the demand of certain applications, fail-over on 10
> million dollar machines, and multipathing to arrays that have more
> computing power than your whole fleet of NT boxes, instead of getting a
> smile cause you "figured" out how to point and click your way to happiness
> w/ windows Active directory or IIS, then you can mock me :)
>
> Thanks,
> jon
>
>
> "The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armor to
> lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the
> fact that it was he who, by peddling second- rate technology, led them
into
> it in the first place."
>
> -- Douglas Adams
>
> "If you have trouble sounding condescending, find a Unix user to show you
> how it's done."
>
> -- Scott Adams
>
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Mohan, Ross wrote:
>
> > :)
> > You caught me, Jon. Your numeric perspicacity and
> > penetrating, thoughtful analysis of the NT development
> > effort has really got me re-evaluating my operating
> > system worldview.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Allen [mailto:jon_at_slurpee.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:56 PM
> > To: Mohan, Ross
> > Cc: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: OT RE: 24 x 7 on NT?
> >
> >
> > why doesnt anyone just compare the platforms that the respective nt/unix
> > versions run on? I dont really care for intel from square one, much less
a
> > proprietary bloated, over marketed, under reliable software to run on
top
> > of it :) I think it just boils down to... you cant admin a unix system
> > properly if you dont care, and if you care, you dont want to admin NT,
so
> > all that NT has behind it is a bunch of non-caring hs dropouts who got
> > their mcse and are working on a cisco certification. Not saying that
linux
> > hasnt brought a slew of script kiddies into the unix melting pot... but
> > atleast they atempt to care and are easy to manage "time to apply some
> > patches before some script kiddies nail my ass" :) Are you sure that
there
> > arent a few extra digits in that uptime there bud? ;) We could invent
more
> > reasonable values that pre-epoch (hell, even pre-digital computer) in
the
> > future.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > jon
> >
> >
> > "The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armor to
> > lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores
the
> > fact that it was he who, by peddling second- rate technology, led them
> into
> > it in the first place."
> >
> > -- Douglas Adams
> >
> > "If you have trouble sounding condescending, find a Unix user to show
you
> > how it's done."
> >
> > -- Scott Adams
> >
> > On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Mohan, Ross wrote:
> >
> > > Here's my Unix box:
> > >
> > > # uptime
> > > 12:09 pm up 32,245 days, 1:01, 14543 users, load average: 120.19,
> > > 430.48, 3450.70
> > >
> > > Here's my NT box:
> > >
> > > # uptime
> > > 12:09 pm up 1 days, 1:01, 1 users, load average: 0.019, 0.008,
> > 0.00070
> > >
> > >
> > > So, obviously, NT sucks. <dusting off hands>.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 1:16 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, my UNIX box would probably run forever except that the DDS3 tape
> > > changer can't seem to last a whole year without breaking. Need to shut
> the
> > > machine down to replace the tape changer. I'm hoping to get lucky this
> > year.
> > > Only 120 days till victory!
> > >
> > > # uptime
> > > 12:09 pm up 245 days, 1:01, 4 users, load average: 0.19, 0.48,
0.70
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:26 AM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall in glitter
crayon:
> > >
> > > ->I agree with His Chrisness on this one.
> > > ->
> > > ->If the avg(NT Admin) > avg(Unix Admin), we'd
> > > ->all be reading this mail on Window's boxes.
> > > ->Er.....what I mean to say is......
> > > ->
> > > -><sly grin>
> > > ->
> > > ->but, in all seriousness....when there is a way
> > > ->to find a *very good* NT admin out of all the
> > > ->Wendy's employees, then NT boxes will be up
> > > ->4 or 5 nines, easy.
> > > ->
> > > ->Besides guys, "five nines" means you're down
> > > ->about FIVE MINUTES a year.
> > > ->
> > > ->Now, how many of the Unix boxes on this list
> > > ->have done that this year? I bet less than
> > > ->one percent.
> > >
> > > well, then there must be a whole lot of unix boxes out there because
> we've
> > > got 40 of them right here. i'd say all of my 32 databases have been
up
> > that
> > > much too, but i've only had 25 of them up a whole year.;-) yup, i
know
> > i've
> > > been lucky.
> > >
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