RE: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)...

But you had no problem giving out your father's self-publishing finances. <ducking> :-)

I think all the original poster was asking was ballpark figures. ie; should a prospective author of an Oracle book expect to make around $1,000, around $10,000, around $100,000, etc. No personal finances involved. Your mileage may vary, etc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:carmichr_at_hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 4:44 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)...
>
>
> sure you asked -- you wanted details on the rates etc... if I
> supply those,
> then I am making public my finances... which are no one's
> business but mine,
> the IRS and my accountant
>
> and since I am an author, yes you are asking me, if not directly then
> certainly indirectly.
>
>
> >From: "Hillman, Alex" <Alex.Hillman_at_usmint.treas.gov>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: RE: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)...
> >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 13:27:57 -0800
> >
> >I did not ask about your finances ( standard incredibly rude
> - LOL). I did
> >not ask you personally. There is no your name in my post.
> But if you decide
> >to answer why it is the same it depends? I know very well
> that it depends.
> >And by the way - it is not a big deal to get detailed info
> about somebody
> >finances if this person did not take specific measures to make it
> >difficult.
> >If you keep your money in US banks, your investments in US
> brokerage, have
> >insurance policies in US - usually to my knowledge it will
> cost only couple
> >of hundred dollars to find all this info.
> >So please relax and be happy.
> >
> >Sexist and incredibly rood Alex Hillman
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 4:56 PM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >every book deal is different -- based on the publisher's
> belief in the
> >marketability of the author, the number of pages in the
> book, the selling
> >price of the book, the number of authors and how well they negotiate.
> >
> >It's sort of like the request for the definitive answer on
> how to set your
> >init.ora parameters -- "it depends"
> >
> >you negotiate a royalty rate. Someone who is a known author
> can usually get
> >a higher rate. you negotiate on the "break points" - the
> number of books
> >that have to be sold before the royalty rate changes
> (upwards usually)
> >
> >you get a different amount based on where the book is sold:
> a bookstore
> >for
> >
> >full price, an online retailer who discounts it, a book
> club, domestic
> >sales
> >
> >vs foreign sales.
> >
> >Then you have to negotiate with your co-authors on how to
> split this money
> >up.
> >
> >Reading a royalty statement is an art.
> >
> >sorry, since I am not an elected official, and I am not
> asking you for a
> >loan, my personal finances are none of your business.
> >
> >And I consider it incredibly rude of you to ask.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Hillman, Alex" <Alex.Hillman_at_usmint.treas.gov>
> > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >Subject: RE: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)...
> > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 11:41:30 -0800
> > >
> > >Somehow this question and answers reminds me when I asked
> several years
> >ago
> > >one guy how much his house is worth. He became red and
> answered something
> > >like roughly don't remember. I told him that his purchase
> is a public
> > >record
> > >and any real estate agent ( and I have licence but don't
> use it) can get
> > >this info in a matter of minutes. The same story here -
> somehow everybody
> > >telling you how minisqule amount they got from writing a
> book, however
> > >nobody will tell you what are usual deal parameters, what
> percentages you
> > >get from sales, how it depends on the sales volume etc.
> You should go
> > >directly to the publisher and find this out. When I would
> like to ask
> > >somebody what his or her ( no sexism :-)) rate is I ask
> usually what is
> >the
> > >range this position is paying and usually people do not
> have problem to
> > >answer such question. Again, it is much better in my
> opinion to do self
> > >publishing.
> > >
> > >Alex Hillman
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:32 PM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >Jonathan,
> > >
> > >Everyone has there own reasons for wanting to write a
> book. For me, the
> > >reasons are:
> > >
> > >1. Credibility with peers / clients
> > >2. Sense of accomplishment
> > >3. Enjoy sharing information with people
> > >4. Some extra cash
> > >
> > >I would certainly say that the first 3 are TRUELY the
> reason that I would
> > >consider such a project, but the extra cash is always a plus!! I
> >certainly
> > >am not interested in getting into anyone's personal
> finances...but could
> > >you
> > >give us some indication / range of what an author could
> expect to receive
> > >from a book deal? I'm sure it varies depending upon the topic and
> > >salesability...but what's a good range? How are book
> deals typically
> > >structured?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Ed Haskins
> > >Oracle DBA
> > >Verizon Wireless
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:26 PM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >Wednesday, June 06, 2001, 4:53:21 PM, Christopher Spence wrote:
> > >CS> I hope your not doing it to get rich :)
> > >
> > >Chris brings up a good point. It's *extremely* difficult to
> > >predict book sales in advance. Editors get surprised all the
> > >time. Books we think will sell well, don't. And sometimes
> > >it's the other way around. It's best to go in with low
> > >expectations, and hopefully you'll come out pleasantly
> > >surprised.
> > >
> > >Best regards,
> > >
> > >Jonathan Gennick
> > >mailto:jonathan_at_gennick.com * 906.387.1698
> > >http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com *
> >http://MetalDrums.org
> > >
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