RE:OT: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

Mike,

"It's easier"?????? Okay, some things are less complicated, but there are
so many more things, I end up studying this stuff nearly every night.

David A. Barbour
Oracle DBA, OCP
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I can remember as far back as version 7.3 where Oracle was touting that
"you won't need a DBA for our new database". It hasn't happened yet,
has it? Oh yes, it's easier, but we're still here!

And besides, what were they offering in the cold call? Replacing your DBAs with their DBAs. At (probably) twice the price. Outsourcing Lives!

Just my $0.02 worth.

Mike

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     -----Original Message-----
     From: Gary Weber [mailto:gweber_at_cji.com]
     Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:27 AM
     To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
     Subject: RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

     Very stupid thing to do by Oracle, considering the fact that many
     Oracle purchasing decisions are made by Oracle DBAs. To shut us out
     like that will most certainly have an effect on Oracle Sales. Hell,
     you don't need me anymore? I'll switch political sides and jump the
     ship to IBM, or <gasp> Microsoft...

     Far as their "superior" i-dba team, I sure hope those are different
     people from the ones you get on first line of Support...

     Gary Weber

     PS. Or maybe we should all become Oracle salesmen (saleswomen)....

     -----Original Message-----
     From: root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Bowes,
     Chris
     Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 12:02 PM
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     Subject: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...



     My boss just received a cold call from Oracle that he let me listen in
     on.  They have a new push on for their i-dba support package.  For
     just a little more money (they did not define little), "we will
     replace your dba's with our superior support team that will monitor
     your database 24x7 and proactively eliminate problems.  This will
     allow you to redesign you office to offload these cumbersome DBA tasks
     and allow your workers to do other things.  You will never have
     another database problem."   I felt good when my boss indicated that
     we had no base problems but based on this, I guess we will have to
     become sqlserver DBAs or <gasp>  developers...    :)


     Ahh, Friday, wonderful Friday,  it seems like you've been away all
     week...


     --Chris
     Chris.Bowes_at_Kosa.com







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