RE: Temporary files and Quick i/o

From: Khedr, Waleed <Waleed.Khedr_at_FMR.COM>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:50:57 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00307A54.20010518081028@fatcity.com>

No you don't. Just copy the file to the new file and the new file will be created notsparse.

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Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:11 AM
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But you need new_file with specific length - let say 500M - how will you do it?

Another way to do it - but may be long - is create normal tablespace (not temporary) with data files you need, then drop tablespace and then create temprary tablespace with reuse of created data files.

Alex Hillman

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:36 PM
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After creating the temp file and shutting down the database, you can use on Solaris cp temp-file new-file and then
cp new-file temp-file.

After that you can convert it to quick-i/o.

Regards,

Waleed

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:06 PM
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I noticed this when I was playing with 9i. Regular tablespaces take long time to be created and temporary ones take nothing.

Here is the proof:

$ ls -l temp01.dbf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 oracle dba 209719296 May 17 18:55 temp01.dbf

$ du -k temp01.dbf
40968 temp01.dbf

$ ls -l users01.dbf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 oracle dba 26218496 May 11 20:27 users01.dbf

$ du -k users01.dbf
25608 users01.dbf

Regards,

Waleed

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:41 PM
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If you create tablespace like - create temporary tablespace <tablespace_name> ... <file_name>
created file will be sparse.

Alex Hillman

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 6:30 PM
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Hi Johnson,

I don't believe that tempfiles can be sparse (although I may be wrong) and I am
confident that datafiles cannot be. Maybe you should log a TAR with Oracle support to checkout whether tempfile can be sparse and just use datafiles until
then. Anyway, can you please post the URL to the tip you mentioned. While it is
the sort of thing I might say, I don't remember actually having said so.

@   Regards,
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-----Original Message-----

Sent: Friday, 18 May 2001 0:05
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Hi,

After reading Steve Adams' tip on making temp files quick io. I posed this question to Veritas as they had told us not do so. The answer they give is the following.

Temporary datafiles should not be converted to quick i/o files. The following is an excerpt from the administrator's Guide: Tablespaces marked TEMPORARY can be sparse, which means that not all blocks in the file are allocated. Quick I/O files cannot be sparse, as Quick I/O provides a raw-type interface to storage. If a sparse file is converted to a Quick I/O file, the Oracle instance can fail if Oracle attempts to write into one of these unallocated blocks.

I would appreciate your thoughts on this?

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