Re: Hey, looks like MS got .NET to work!!

From: Eric D. Pierce <PierceED_at_csus.edu>
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 12:29:31 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.002FE559.20010509122601@fatcity.com>

Bon dia Nuno!

bummer on the hacker stuff.

my goal, after learning spanish/catalan and arabic, is portugese, and then going to Brazil. :)

if you are interested in mysticism, check out Ibn-al-Arabi, "The Great Andulsian" muslim philosopher. There is a new book published by White Cloud Press:

http://www.whitecloudpress.com/books/mercifier_excerpt.html

btw, I noticed that your link to Antonio Gaudi and La Sagrada Familia is dead:

http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/the_Den/rants.htm

note: despite the fantastic, outrageous & trippy look of his organic architecture, Gaudi's work was rooted in "conservative" aesthetics (medieval/gothic) and Gaudi hoped to inspire a return to traditional catalan values (note the many religious themes, such as St. George slaying the dragon, etc.). Gaudi's work was part of a larger reaction to the industrial/counter-industrial/leftist trends that were eroding traditional cultural innovation and creativity. Thus Gaudi is seen by contemporary "progressives" as a tragic figure. Of course for people that realize that the great passion and drama of humanity involves atonement and redemption, not the fashionable nonsense of "secular salvation" via political ideology (Ivan Illich), Gaudi's work is a supreme example of "raging against the machine".

some alternatives from google.com search on "catalunya gaudi":

http://www.gaudi2002.bcn.es/english/flash/H/Html/enimatge/catala-roca/cr08.jpg
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http://www.gaudi2002.bcn.es/english/flash/H/Html/enimatge/catala-roca/fotocr07.jpg
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http://www.gaudi2002.bcn.es/english/flash/H/Html/enimatge/fris/foto11.jpg
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(http://gaudi.hypermart.net/fotos/)

Rural Catalunya: http://www.turismerural.com/index.htm
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misc turisme: http://195.77.241.12/angles/webs_inf.htm
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While visiting my wife's relatives, somewhere outside Barcelona (near Mataro?) is a small town where I saw some remnants of one of Gaudi's very early projects (before he became well known), buildings and decorations of a worker's cooperative built around a textile mill (one of the main industries in fin de cicle catalunya). It is amazing that they had 2,000 workers, and all the agriculture, infrastructure, education, etc. organized in a cooperative framework. Of course the coop social institutions were all destroyed in the civil war (most older people there who were kids then remember eating potato skins becase of food shortages and seeing/hearing german dive bombers). On the other side, anarchists almost assasinated my wife's grandfather during the civil war because he owned a textile factory.

regards,
ep

On 9 May 2001, at 2:10, Nuno Souto wrote:

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> Interesting!   I use their services a lot.
> And I also got a punter knocking on my port 80.
> I wonder...
> 
> Cheers
> Nuno Souto
> nsouto_at_nsw.bigpond.net.au
> http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/the_Den
> ----- Original Message -----

>
> >www.grc.com got nailed:

...

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