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Home -> Community -> Mailing Lists -> Oracle-L -> RE: Temporary Tablespace Design
I think you missed analyze operation. It is for this command is 4x<table size> may be required. Also space for temporary tablespaces can be on very cheap disks.
Alex Hillman
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Chris,
First let me say that I have a TON of respect for Mike and count him as
a
friend. That said, I also take exception to many of his pronouncements from
a
practical, not theoretical, point of view. Given infinite resources, like
disk
space and memory and CPU, he does have it absolutely right. But in the real
world there is infinite nothing.
The first item on my list here it to look at what temp space is used
for.
It's mainly used for sorting, grouping, and distinct operations. These are
the
normal things that involve temp segments, and in a day to day operation that
will consume an amount of space. The other item their used for is index
building, which is not a normal day to day operation. Therefore the need
for an
extremely large temp tablespace is a sporadic and plan able event. Second,
comes the question of the purpose of the database. If your building an OLTP
system then temp usage is going to be even less since the majority of
actions
will affect few rows at one time. If it's a data warehouse on the other
hand
then data mining operations tend to make extreme use of temp for group and
sort
operations, but even so the amount of data being processed will not hit the
extremes and when it does it's most likely bogus in the first place. My
favorite in this vein is our CIO who let loose a Cartesian product query
just
because he forgot to join the fact table to the other tables. In this case
the
lack of temp space brought the query to a halt quickly and mercifully.
OK, so where should you go? Well, I'll get into our DB's which range
from
our 150GB data warehouse to our 200GB operational data store. The former
has
1GB of temp storage for normal operations. The latter gets along very well
on
400MB of temp space. Both have a 14GB disk area that they share as required
for
those monster index rebuilds.
Where you go from here is a lot of personal decision. I recommend
starting
small & working your way up as necessary. The easiest way to do that is to
enable auto-extend.
Dick Goulet
____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: CC Harvest <ccharvest_at_yahoo.com> Date: 4/12/2001 12:05 AM
What's your experience about the temporary table design? I read Michael Ault's Orcale8 Administartion and Management , it says "For Cost-based optimization, it should be 4 times of the largest table". I have a table of 60 Million records, and it costs 16GB, should I have a 64GB temp tablespace(I don't think so, though it's a 100GB database, and I have a 300GB of diskspace).
Thanks for your advice.
Chris
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