Re: Re:RE: RE: Oracle DBA evolution path - please share your opi

Jared,

Yes, you are absolutely right, nobody is having interest in selling quality products. Money is coming from the support of the product, not from the selling of the product itself. If the product is well-written, then it'll be no big deal with maintenance, hence no money from contractors who support and "customize" the application ( read: fix the numerous bugs on fly and try to make the whole $hit work ). The more complicated the product, the more money is paid for it's maintenance. The more money is paid, the more people are is interested in working with it. The only problem is to sell the whole stuff - but it's only a matter of the sales department' qualification.

Just IMHO,
Michael Netrusov,
www.atelo.com

• Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 00:15

>
> Dick,
>
> We should formalize this rant and post it and a web page
> and publicize it.
>
> Almost without exception, databases for 3rd party software
> are designed in the dark by drunken monkeys.
>
> In the past I've toyed with the idea of offering a service
> of ERD and database design to 3rd party developers, but have
> since realized that they have no interest in selling quality
> products.
>
> As for posting your rant, I have a domain 'duhvelper.com' that
> I haven't done anything with yet...
>
> Jared
>
>
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 dgoulet_at_vicr.com wrote:
>
> > Jacques,
> >
> > First things first, DON'T TAKE THIS PERSONAL. I am not trying to brow beat
> > anyone, just venting a common problem I have with third party software
> > applications. I've had a couple interactions with Quest which for the most part
> > have been uneventful.
> >
> > Over the last 5 years I've had run-ins with a lot of third party
> > applications, like PeopleSoft, Support Magic, Etrade, and now CoCreate. To say
> > the least they all have NOT been pleasant, actually some are down right too
> > painful and really get my blood pressure up.
> >
> ...
>
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