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Dennis,
we have been through this over here in the UK too.
It is Either Universal Power Units (UPU) OR Named Users, you would normally
purchase the lower unless the
figures were so close that you might as well go for unlimited users,
especially if you
expect to need more named users in the future. (Simplifies support renewal
too!)
Some Gotchas...
In Standard edition the min. named user is 5, not UPU/30 ! (Unless its
different outside the UK)
Named Users can also access any number of servers if you
go for the Named-User-Multi-Server option - BUT NOTE if you are running a
load sharing cluster, using OPS
for example or Oracle's hot standby, then this also counts as multi-server
or the combined UPU value for both (all) servers.
The only exception is Failover systems, e.g. using HP's MC/ServiceGuard, HACMP etc; this requires UPU licences for the largest server or Named-User-Single_server.
Clear as mud now!
This was how it was explained by our Oracle distributor, eventually.
Steve Parker
E Mail: steve.parker_at_lis.co.uk
Dennis Taylor <ismgr_at_pctc.c To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> om> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing root_at_fatcity. com 06/03/2001 15:35 Please respond to ORACLE-L
At 03:00 AM 3/6/01 -0800, you wrote:
>
>As luck would have it I was evaluating the prices of Oracle and then SQL
>Server today.
>
>My question at this point is, what kind of prices does Microsoft charge
>for support, I was pretending to purchase SQL Server and noticed that no
>mention is made about product support.
>
>Using the "Power Unit" method MS and Oracle come out within about $5k of
>each other, but when you get to their Enterprise editions, MS is just
>under $20k where as Oracle is way out there. The cheaoest I could get
>Oracle, with unlimited users (which is what I need). On a 1ghz Intel,
>single processor machine with a 2 yr lic, Oracle Enterprise costs $45,600
>(thats if you want support with your DB).
>
Well, I bow to your superior wisdom, because I'm damned if I can figure it out. Here's what I have:
linux box, 2x750MHz intel cpus, want to load Enterprise edition. That gives me 1500 UPU's.
According to the web page, UPU's are $100 per. That gives $150,000.00 According to the web page, my minimum user count is 1500/30 = 75. According to the web page, perpetual users are $750 per, so 750x75 =$56,250.00
Now, do I pay the higher number, the lower number, the sum of the numbers, or what? I find it hard to believe that Oracle wants $206,250.00 just for an intel box, but there's nothing on the web page to indicate otherwise. Obviously this is another case of "give us your credit card, then we'll tell you how much you've paid".
Can someone clarify this?
(for those who are wondering why I don't just phone a salescritter, I have three reasons: 1) I need an answer this week, 2) I need an answer in plain english, and 3) Once a salecritter smells blood, er, money, it's like trying to get two-sided tape off your fingers.)
Dennis Taylor
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