RE: general doubt

From: Alex Hillman <alex_hillman_at_physia.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:21:33 -0500
Message-Id: <10731.125750@fatcity.com>

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OK, let's end it.

Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Welch [mailto:rockyw_99_at_yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 2:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: general doubt

How can you get a "tone" from an email? Losing battle Alex. Give it up.

Alex Hillman <alex_hillman_at_physia.com> wrote:
> I do not object to mentioning of the delete key but I do not like and
> will
> not tolerate the tone. I do not see Rachel as a such moral authority
> figure
> for me to accept such tone (Maybe she is but I barely know her - I saw
> her
> one time on IOUG conference and saw couple of her books). If instead of
> "I
> remind you, the delete key is located on your keyboard and labelled as
> such"
> she said something like "If you don't like the message use the delete
> key" I
> wouldn't even reply.
>
> Alex Hillman
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 12:41 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
>
> I must say that I totally agree with Rachel. As a female, I found that
> the
> email Alex send out to be very offensive. And I definitely don't
> appreciate
> such comments on the list.
>
> Every body entitled to speak whatever they want, subject to not
> physically
> or emotionally harming the other person.
>
> Like what Rachel said, DELETE keys are always there for you for one
> purpose: to delete whatever you don't want to read!
>
> Winnie
>
>
>
>
>
> "Deshpande, Kirti" <kirti.deshpande_at_verizon.com>@fatcity.com on
> 01/03/2001
> 07:50:50 PM
>
> Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>
> Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
>
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> cc:
>
>
>
> Current Score:
> Rachel : 14
> Alex : 6
> End of 1st Period !! This is getting very interesting at FatcityBowl...
>
> Can we..can we just get along...
> - Rodney King
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:carmichr_at_hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 8:51 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: general doubt
> >
> > From www.dictionary.com:
> >
> > insinuation: Something insinuated, especially an artfully indirect,
> often
> > derogatory suggestion.
> >
> > insinuate: To introduce or insert (oneself) by subtle and artful
> means.
> >
> > Based on those definitions, I didn't insinuate anything. I was neither
> > subtle nor indirect in calling you sexist.
> >
> > sexism: Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping
> of
> > social roles based on gender.
> >
> > Telling me that I am not your mother or wife is promoting
> stereotyping,
> > since those are gender-based roles.
> >
> > I told you to use the delete key and not to insult me... no
> insinuation
> > there. You might consider checking a dictionary before you use words
> when
> > you are not sure of the definitions.
> >
> > Consider yourself permanently blocked -- and a complaint about your
> > behavior
> > has been lodged with the list owner.
> >
> >
> > >From: Alex Hillman <alex_hillman_at_physia.com>
> > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >Subject: RE: general doubt
> > >Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:30:32 -0800
> > >
> > >Maybe it is enough. What is your next insinuation? Sexist - it is
> > >hilarious.
> > >You should have better arguments than that. And also you can delete
> my
> > >messages - if you use MS Outlook you can even have a rule to delete
> them
> > >immediately.
> > >
> > >Alex Hillman
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 3:46 PM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >Yes you are entitled to your view -- but when you add to the messages
> on
> > a
> > >topic then you add to the trash if you consider the topic itself to
> be
> > >trash.
> > >
> > >As for not being your wife or mother -- no, thank goodness, I'm not
> in
> > any
> > >way or form related to you. And I find it insulting that you would
> say
> > that
> > >to me, since you would NOT say "you are not my father" to any man on
> this
> > >list. I find that a sexist remark and definitely "trashing" this
> list.
> > >
> > >As for being or not being a school teacher... whether or not I was is
> > >irrelevant... but I consider THAT a compliment (although I can infer
> that
> > >you don't think it is). School teachers educate... and I think that
> > >eradicating ignorance is a noble task.
> > >
> > > >From: Alex Hillman <alex_hillman_at_physia.com>
> > > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > >Subject: RE: general doubt
> > > >Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:10:42 -0800
> > > >
> > > >I think that as anybody else I am entitled to my point of view and
> can
> > > >express it. This is definitely trashing and every day it becomes
> worse.
> >
> > >In
> > > >trashing I mean to diminish the value of this list. Also there were
> no
> > > >indications in the subject showing me that I should delete the
> message.
> > > >Also
> > > >I do not appreciate this "I remind you, the delete key is located
> on
> > your
> > > >keyboard and labelled as such". You are not my mother or wife or
> school
> > > >teacher (or maybe you are a school teacher - in former life?).
> > > >
> > > >Alex Hillman
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 2:26 PM
> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Alex,
> > > >
> > > >"trashing this list"? A bit harsh and definitely inaccurate.
> > > >
> > > >I remind you, the delete key is located on your keyboard and
> labelled
> > as
> > > >such. I suggest you use it instead of, to quote your own message,
> > >"trashing
> > > >this list".
> > > >
> > > >Rachel
> >
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>OK, let's end it.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Alex</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Rocky Welch [<A HREF="mailto:rockyw_99_at_yahoo.com">mailto:rockyw_99_at_yahoo.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 2:01 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: general doubt</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>How can you get a &quot;tone&quot; from an email? Losing battle Alex. Give it up.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>--- Alex Hillman &lt;alex_hillman_at_physia.com&gt; wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; I do not object to mentioning of the delete key but I do not like and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; will</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; not tolerate the tone. I do not see Rachel as a such moral authority</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; figure</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; for me to accept such tone (Maybe she is but I barely know her - I saw</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; her</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; one time on IOUG conference and saw couple of her books). If instead of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &quot;I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; remind you, the delete key is located on your keyboard and labelled as</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; such&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; she said something like &quot;If you don't like the message use the delete</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; key&quot; I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; wouldn't even reply. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Alex Hillman</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 12:41 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; I must say that I totally agree with Rachel. As a female, I found that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; email Alex send out to be very offensive. And I definitely don't</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; appreciate</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; such comments on the list.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Every body entitled to speak whatever they want, subject to not</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; physically</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; or emotionally harming the other person.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Like what Rachel said, DELETE keys are always there for you for one</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; purpose: to delete whatever you don't want to read!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Winnie</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &quot;Deshpande, Kirti&quot; &lt;kirti.deshpande_at_verizon.com&gt;@fatcity.com on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; 01/03/2001</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; 07:50:50 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Sent by:&nbsp; root_at_fatcity.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; To:&nbsp;&nbsp; Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L &lt;ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; cc:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Current Score:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp; Rachel : 14</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp; Alex : 6</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; End of 1st Period !! This is getting very interesting at FatcityBowl...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Can we..can we just get along...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp; - Rodney King</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; From:&nbsp;&nbsp; Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:carmichr_at_hotmail.com]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp; Wednesday, January 03, 2001 8:51 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RE: general doubt</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; From www.dictionary.com:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; insinuation: Something insinuated, especially an artfully indirect,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; often</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; derogatory suggestion.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; insinuate: To introduce or insert (oneself) by subtle and artful</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; means.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Based on those definitions, I didn't insinuate anything. I was neither</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; subtle nor indirect in calling you sexist.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; sexism:&nbsp; Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; social roles based on gender.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Telling me that I am not your mother or wife is promoting</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; stereotyping,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; since those are gender-based roles.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; I told you to use the delete key and not to insult me... no</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; insinuation</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; there. You might consider checking a dictionary before you use words</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; when</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; you are not sure of the definitions.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Consider yourself permanently blocked -- and a complaint about your</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; behavior</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; has been lodged with the list owner.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;From: Alex Hillman &lt;alex_hillman_at_physia.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L &lt;ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: RE: general doubt</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:30:32 -0800</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Maybe it is enough. What is your next insinuation? Sexist - it is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;hilarious.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;You should have better arguments than that. And also you can delete</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; my</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;messages - if you use MS Outlook you can even have a rule to delete</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; them</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;immediately.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Alex Hillman</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 3:46 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Yes you are entitled to your view -- but when you add to the messages</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;topic then you add to the trash if you consider the topic itself to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;trash.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;As for not being your wife or mother -- no, thank goodness, I'm not</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; any</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;way or form related to you. And I find it insulting that you would</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; say</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;to me, since you would NOT say &quot;you are not my father&quot; to any man on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; this</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;list. I find that a sexist remark and definitely &quot;trashing&quot; this</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; list.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;As for being or not being a school teacher... whether or not I was is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;irrelevant... but I consider THAT a compliment (although I can infer</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;you don't think it is). School teachers educate... and I think that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;eradicating ignorance is a noble task.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;From: Alex Hillman &lt;alex_hillman_at_physia.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L &lt;ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: RE: general doubt</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:10:42 -0800</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I think that as anybody else I am entitled to my point of view and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; can</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;express it. This is definitely trashing and every day it becomes</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; worse.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;In</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;trashing I mean to diminish the value of this list. Also there were</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; no</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;indications in the subject showing me that I should delete the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; message.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Also</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I do not appreciate this &quot;I remind you, the delete key is located</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; your</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;keyboard and labelled as such&quot;. You are not my mother or wife or</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; school</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;teacher (or maybe you are a school teacher - in former life?).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Alex Hillman</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 2:26 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Alex,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&quot;trashing this list&quot;?&nbsp; A bit harsh and definitely inaccurate.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I remind you, the delete key is located on your keyboard and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; labelled</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; as</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;such. I suggest you use it instead of, to quote your own message,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;&quot;trashing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;this list&quot;.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Rachel</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; --</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; --</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Author: Deshpande, Kirti</FONT>
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