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Also, Rachel has REALLY COOL office furnishings. :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:carmichr_at_hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 8:21 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: DBA - Job boundaries & perks
The CEO of the place I am now, just asked everyone in the company (less = than
100 of us) to send him an email with our top 10 "best and worst" things =
about our site and the company. And he MEANT it. He'll read them all, =
and=20
will actually listen and try to make changes where possible.
At the staff meeting, when he handed out the bonus checks -- it was =
like a=20
graduation. He called your name, you came up and shook his hand, got =
the=20
check and EVERYONE applauded. We sang Happy Birthday to a couple of =
people.
There is a LOT of work to do here. Long hours at times, work through =
lunch,=20
work evenings and weekends at home. My junior DBA has to glare at me to =
get=20
me away from my desk for a break. And I'm still barely running in place =
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keep up. And it gets frustrating at times (when I actually get 5 =
minutes to=20
do my real work, and make an improvement I keep telling my boss "see =
what I=20
can do when you let me do what I'm supposed to do?")
I, like Jeff, took a pay cut to come here. And I've had offers since =
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LOT more money. But the attitude of the people here, when I can get =
them=20
some information from the database that they can't find, or when I =
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things up, well.... an email saying "thanks, you rule" is why I stay.
Tech is usually the "forgotten stepchild" of a company. No one knows = who you
are, what you do, and they only know your phone number to call and = complain.
Not here.... we do company outings, heck, we went bowling (and boy am I =
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lousy bowler -- and my teammates, kids half my age, just kept =
encouraging me
and cheering me on). We know names and faces.
Sometimes the perks are not tangible.... and usually those are the =
perks=20
that are really worth it. I have enough money to pay my bills and buy =
myself
the occasional toy. More money won't make me happier. Being appreciated =
does.
Rachel
>From: paquette stephane <stephane_paquette_at_yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: DBA - Job boundaries & perks
>Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:21:04 -0800
>
>I worked in a startup at my previous client, my best
>souvenir is wearing jeans at work.
>My worst souvenir is the times when the owner came in
>the IT room and asked the developpers to work in the
>production environment to be able to deliver on
>schedule.
>Since the startup was owned by a major corporation, no
>IPO so no future gold :-(
>
>
>--- Jeffery Stevenson <jeff_at_mpv.com> a =E9crit=A0: >
>Well, I'm working a startup job now and I really
> > like it. I essentially
> > took a pay cut and the possibility of future "gold"
> > is always nice, but the
> > thing that convinced me to join this team was the
> > work environment. A lot
> > more freedom to be creative and get work done...a
> > lot more input on the
> > architecture of the system (where they actually
> > listen and follow through on
> > the advice!), and a lot more fun in the work
> > environment (of course that
> > could be that its a good group of people I'm working
> > with). The future is
> > really bright for this company, but even if they
> > fold tomorrow (extremely
> > doubtful), I'm having fun with my work and getting
> > an opportunity to learn
> > more, so it will have all been worthwhile. At least
> > you have a lot of
> > long-term DoD contracts you can fall back on in your
> > area. :) BTW, Scott,
> > how's the modernization of that personnel data
> > system coming along?
> >
> > Jeffery Stevenson
> > Chief Databeast Tamer
> > Medical Present Value, Inc.
> > Austin, TX
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > [mailto:Scott.Shafer_at_dcpds.cpms.osd.mil]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:57 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Bill, at least you're still employed. I went after
> > the startup dream and
> > ended up with a pink slip when they folded up...
> > Not a fun time.
> >
> > --Scott Shafer
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: WIlliam Thater [SMTP:thaterw_at_telergy.net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:26 AM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: Re: DBA - Job boundaries & perks
> > >
> > > "O'Neill, Sean" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How do you protect your "private life" time from
> > your role of DBA?. Do
> > > you
> > > > have formalised detailed job contracts with your
> > employer covering such
> > >
> > > i'm supposed to have a private life? damn, obody
> > told me. why am i
> > > always the last one to know? as for my contract,
> > i'm on call 24x7x365
> > > including holidays and vacations. i hope you
> > don't work for a startup
> > > like me. i won't do it again, i was sold on the
> > dream. i was stupid.
> > >
> > > and the only perks are that i get everybody else's
> > cast of PCs and i get
> > > to do all my own tech support.
> > > --
> > > Bill Thater Sr. ORACLE DBA
> > > Telergy, Inc thaterw_at_telergy.net
> > >
> >
>----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > "Only two things are infinite, the universe and
> > human stupidity,
> > > and I'm not sure about the former." -- Albert
> > Einstein
> > >
> >
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>Stephane Paquette
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>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Also, Rachel has REALLY COOL office furnishings. :-)</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Rachel Carmichael [<A HREF="mailto:carmichr_at_hotmail.com">mailto:carmichr_at_hotmail.com</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 8:21 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: DBA - Job boundaries & perks</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>The CEO of the place I am now, just asked everyone in the company (less than </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>100 of us) to send him an email with our top 10 "best and worst" things </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>about our site and the company. And he MEANT it. He'll read them all, and </FONT><BR><FONT SIZE=2>will actually listen and try to make changes where possible.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>At the staff meeting, when he handed out the bonus checks -- it was like a </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>graduation. He called your name, you came up and shook his hand, got the </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>check and EVERYONE applauded. We sang Happy Birthday to a couple of people.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>There is a LOT of work to do here. Long hours at times, work through lunch, </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>work evenings and weekends at home. My junior DBA has to glare at me to get </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>me away from my desk for a break. And I'm still barely running in place to </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>keep up. And it gets frustrating at times (when I actually get 5 minutes to </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>do my real work, and make an improvement I keep telling my boss "see what I </FONT><BR><FONT SIZE=2>can do when you let me do what I'm supposed to do?")</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>I, like Jeff, took a pay cut to come here. And I've had offers since for a </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>LOT more money. But the attitude of the people here, when I can get them </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>some information from the database that they can't find, or when I speed </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>things up, well.... an email saying "thanks, you rule" is why I stay.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Tech is usually the "forgotten stepchild" of a company. No one knows who you </FONT><BR><FONT SIZE=2>are, what you do, and they only know your phone number to call and complain.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Not here.... we do company outings, heck, we went bowling (and boy am I a </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>lousy bowler -- and my teammates, kids half my age, just kept encouraging me </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>and cheering me on). We know names and faces.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Sometimes the perks are not tangible.... and usually those are the perks </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>that are really worth it. I have enough money to pay my bills and buy myself </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>the occasional toy. More money won't make me happier. Being appreciated </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>does.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Rachel</FONT> </P> <BR> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>>From: paquette stephane <stephane_paquette_at_yahoo.com></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Subject: RE: DBA - Job boundaries & perks</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:21:04 -0800</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>I worked in a startup at my previous client, my best</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>souvenir is wearing jeans at work.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>My worst souvenir is the times when the owner came in</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>the IT room and asked the developpers to work in the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>production environment to be able to deliver on</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>schedule.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Since the startup was owned by a major corporation, no</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>IPO so no future gold :-(</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>--- Jeffery Stevenson <jeff_at_mpv.com> a écrit : ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Well, I'm working a startup job now and I really</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > like it. I essentially</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > took a pay cut and the possibility of future "gold"</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > is always nice, but the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > thing that convinced me to join this team was the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > work environment. A lot</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > more freedom to be creative and get work done...a</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > lot more input on the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > architecture of the system (where they actually</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > listen and follow through on</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > the advice!), and a lot more fun in the work</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > environment (of course that</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > could be that its a good group of people I'm working</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > with). The future is</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > really bright for this company, but even if they</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > fold tomorrow (extremely</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > doubtful), I'm having fun with my work and getting</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > an opportunity to learn</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > more, so it will have all been worthwhile. At least</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > you have a lot of</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > long-term DoD contracts you can fall back on in your</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > area. :) BTW, Scott,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > how's the modernization of that personnel data</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > system coming along?</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Jeffery Stevenson</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Chief Databeast Tamer</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Medical Present Value, Inc.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Austin, TX</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > [<A HREF="mailto:Scott.Shafer_at_dcpds.cpms.osd.mil">mailto:Scott.Shafer_at_dcpds.cpms.osd.mil</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:57 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Bill, at least you're still employed. I went after</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > the startup dream and</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ended up with a pink slip when they folded up...</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Not a fun time.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > --Scott Shafer</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > San Antonio, TX</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > From: WIlliam Thater [SMTP:thaterw_at_telergy.net]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:26 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > Subject: Re: DBA - Job boundaries & perks</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > "O'Neill, Sean" wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > How do you protect your "private life" time from</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > your role of DBA?. Do</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > you</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > have formalised detailed job contracts with your</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > employer covering such</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > i'm supposed to have a private life? damn, obody</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > told me. why am i</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > always the last one to know? as for my contract,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > i'm on call 24x7x365</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > including holidays and vacations. i hope you</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > don't work for a startup</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > like me. i won't do it again, i was sold on the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > dream. i was stupid.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > and the only perks are that i get everybody else's</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > cast of PCs and i get</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > to do all my own tech support.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > Bill Thater Sr. ORACLE DBA</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > Telergy, Inc thaterw_at_telergy.net</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>----------------------------------------------------------------</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > "Only two things are infinite, the universe and</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > human stupidity,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > and I'm not sure about the former." -- Albert</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Einstein</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>----------------------------------------------------------------</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > http://www.orafaq.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > Author: WIlliam Thater</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > INET: thaterw_at_telergy.net</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > FAX: (858) 538-5051</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > access / Mailing Lists</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>--------------------------------------------------------------------</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > E-Mail message</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > 'ListGuru') and in</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > removed from). You may</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > also send the HELP command for other information</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > (like subscribing).</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > http://www.orafaq.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Author:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > INET: Scott.Shafer_at_dcpds.cpms.osd.mil</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > (858) 538-5051</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > San Diego, California -- Public Internet</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > access / Mailing Lists</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>--------------------------------------------------------------------</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > E-Mail message</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > 'ListGuru') and in</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > from). You may</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > also send the HELP command for other information</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > (like subscribing).</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > http://www.orafaq.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Author: Jeffery Stevenson</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > INET: jeff_at_mpv.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > (858) 538-5051</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > San Diego, California -- Public Internet</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > access / Mailing Lists</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>--------------------------------------------------------------------</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > E-Mail message</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > 'ListGuru') and in</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > from). 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