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RE: DBA - Job boundaries & perks

From: Loughmiller, Greg <greg.loughmiller_at_glenayre.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:55:58 -0500
Message-Id: <10718.125247@fatcity.com> 





I'm afraid to ask!?!?!?!?!?



Greg Loughmiller=20


Manager Database and Production Support-PrePaid=20
770.283.1744=20



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-----Original Message-----


From: Mohan, Ross [mailto:MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 9:52 AM


To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: DBA - Job boundaries & perks





Also, Rachel has REALLY COOL office furnishings. :-)=20



-----Original Message-----=20


From: Rachel Carmichael [ mailto:carmichr_at_hotmail.com
<mailto:carmichr_at_hotmail.com> ]=20


Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 8:21 AM=20
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20
Subject: RE: DBA - Job boundaries & perks=20




The CEO of the place I am now, just asked everyone in the company (less =
than



100 of us) to send him an email with our top 10 "best and worst" things =



about our site and the company. And he MEANT it. He'll read them all, =
and=20


will actually listen and try to make changes where possible.=20



At the staff meeting, when he handed out the bonus checks -- it was =
like a=20


graduation. He called your name, you came up and shook his hand, got =
the=20


check and EVERYONE applauded. We sang Happy Birthday to a couple of =
people.=20



There is a LOT of work to do here. Long hours at times, work through =
lunch,=20


work evenings and weekends at home. My junior DBA has to glare at me to =
get=20


me away from my desk for a break. And I'm still barely running in place =
to=20


keep up. And it gets frustrating at times (when I actually get 5 =
minutes to=20


do my real work, and make an improvement I keep telling my boss "see =
what I=20


can do when you let me do what I'm supposed to do?")=20



I, like Jeff, took a pay cut to come here. And I've had offers since =
for a=20


LOT more money. But the attitude of the people here, when I can get =
them=20


some information from the database that they can't find, or when I =
speed=20


things up, well.... an email saying "thanks, you rule" is why I stay.=20



Tech is usually the "forgotten stepchild" of a company. No one knows =
who you



are, what you do, and they only know your phone number to call and =
complain.




Not here.... we do company outings, heck, we went bowling (and boy am I =
a=20


lousy bowler -- and my teammates, kids half my age, just kept =
encouraging me



and cheering me on).  We know names and faces.=20



Sometimes the perks are not tangible.... and usually those are the =
perks=20


that are really worth it. I have enough money to pay my bills and buy =
myself



the occasional toy. More money won't make me happier. Being appreciated =



does.=20





Rachel=20





>From: paquette stephane <stephane_paquette_at_yahoo.com>=20

>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com=20

>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>=20

>Subject: RE: DBA - Job boundaries & perks=20

>Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:21:04 -0800=20

>=20

>I worked in a startup at my previous client, my best=20

>souvenir is wearing jeans at work.=20

>My worst souvenir is the times when the owner came in=20

>the IT room and asked the developpers to work in the=20

>production environment to be able to deliver on=20

>schedule.=20

>Since the startup was owned by a major corporation, no=20

>IPO so no future gold  :-(=20

>=20

>=20

>--- Jeffery Stevenson <jeff_at_mpv.com> a =E9crit : >=20

>Well, I'm working a startup job now and I really=20

> > like it.  I essentially=20

> > took a pay cut and the possibility of future "gold"=20

> > is always nice, but the=20

> > thing that convinced me to join this team was the=20

> > work environment.  A lot=20

> > more freedom to be creative and get work done...a=20

> > lot more input on the=20

> > architecture of the system (where they actually=20

> > listen and follow through on=20

> > the advice!), and a lot more fun in the work=20

> > environment (of course that=20

> > could be that its a good group of people I'm working=20

> > with).  The future is=20

> > really bright for this company, but even if they=20

> > fold tomorrow (extremely=20

> > doubtful), I'm having fun with my work and getting=20

> > an opportunity to learn=20

> > more, so it will have all been worthwhile.  At least=20

> > you have a lot of=20

> > long-term DoD contracts you can fall back on in your=20

> > area.  :)  BTW, Scott,=20

> > how's the modernization of that personnel data=20

> > system coming along?=20

> >=20

> > Jeffery Stevenson=20

> > Chief Databeast Tamer=20

> > Medical Present Value, Inc.=20

> > Austin, TX=20

> >=20

> > -----Original Message-----=20

> > [ mailto:Scott.Shafer_at_dcpds.cpms.osd.mil

<mailto:Scott.Shafer_at_dcpds.cpms.osd.mil> ]=20


> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:57 AM=20

> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20

> >=20

> >=20

> > Bill, at least you're still employed.  I went after=20

> > the startup dream and=20

> > ended up with a pink slip when they folded up...=20

> > Not a fun time.=20

> >=20

> > --Scott Shafer=20

> >   San Antonio, TX=20

> >=20

> >=20

> > > -----Original Message-----=20

> > > From:     WIlliam Thater [SMTP:thaterw_at_telergy.net]=20

> > > Sent:     Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:26 AM=20

> > > To:       Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20

> > > Subject:  Re: DBA - Job boundaries & perks=20

> > >=20

> > > "O'Neill, Sean" wrote:=20

> > > >=20

> > > > How do you protect your "private life" time from=20

> > your role of DBA?.  Do=20

> > > you=20

> > > > have formalised detailed job contracts with your=20

> > employer covering such=20

> > >=20

> > > i'm supposed to have a private life?  damn, obody=20

> > told me.  why am i=20

> > > always the last one to know?  as for my contract,=20

> > i'm on call 24x7x365=20

> > > including holidays and vacations.  i hope you=20

> > don't work for a startup=20

> > > like me.  i won't do it again, i was sold on the=20

> > dream.  i was stupid.=20

> > >=20

> > > and the only perks are that i get everybody else's=20

> > cast of PCs and i get=20

> > > to do all my own tech support.=20

> > > --=20

> > > Bill Thater      Sr. ORACLE DBA=20

> > > Telergy, Inc     thaterw_at_telergy.net=20

> > >=20

> >=20

>----------------------------------------------------------------=20

> > > "Only two things are infinite, the universe and=20

> > human stupidity,=20

> > > and I'm not sure about the former."  -- Albert=20

> > Einstein=20

> > >=20

> >=20

>----------------------------------------------------------------=20

> > > --=20

> > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:=20

> > http://www.orafaq.com <http://www.orafaq.com> =20

> > > --=20

> > > Author: WIlliam Thater=20

> > >   INET: thaterw_at_telergy.net=20

> > >=20

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> > Author:=20

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> >=20

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> > Author: Jeffery Stevenson=20

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>Stephane Paquette=20

>DBA Oracle=20

>stephane_paquette_at_yahoo.com=20

>=20

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Author: Rachel Carmichael=20


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