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RE: OFFTOPIC: DBA simulator RE: FreeOCP

From: Kimberly Smith <kimberly.smith_at_gmd.fujitsu.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 08:26:56 -0800
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Man, you all need new managers. I have yet to be harassed when there are database issues that need immediate attention. Now, at this site the client managers harass my managers but basically I am left to do my job.  

Now I do have junior developers blaming all the worlds problems on the database but thankfully I work with mostly senior developers who have mastered the art of investigation and if they come to me it most likely is my issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: arun [mailto:arun_k_c_at_hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 7:22 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: OFFTOPIC: DBA simulator RE: FreeOCP

I am already facing thats probs

haha Don't forget the pages/calls from your spouse (if you're still married) wondering when you're coming home.

Regards,
Satar

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From: Jeffery Stevenson [SMTP:jeff_at_mpv.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:14 PM

To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
Subject:        RE: FreeOCP 

	  What we need is a DBA simulator...a virtual reality cubicle where
you are
constantly berated and harassed by AI managers and developers while you are trying to fix their problems via your virtual workstation. To add realism, we could make it a 3-5 day simulation where it has one of the virtual managers call you at 3 in the morning jumping up and down screaming, "The database is broke! The database is broke!" Of course, the programmer, system and network AIs will randomly spread the blame between the database and the others...and after determining that it isn't a database problem, they'll insist that you stay up and "watch the database and give them a full

report"--just to be sure. It could have the dual purpose of better testing the extent of someone's capabilities and scaring away the meek all in one fell swoop. :)

        Jeffery Stevenson
Chief Databeast Tamer
Medical Present Value, Inc.
Austin, TX

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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=884271916-08122000>Man,
you all need new managers.&nbsp; I have yet to be harassed when there</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=884271916-08122000>are
database issues that need immediate attention.&nbsp; Now, at this site</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=884271916-08122000>the
client managers harass my managers but basically I am left to do my</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=884271916-08122000>job.&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=884271916-08122000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=884271916-08122000>Now I
do have junior developers blaming all the worlds problems on the</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=884271916-08122000>database but thankfully I work with mostly senior developers who have </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=884271916-08122000>mastered the art of investigation and if they come to me it most likely is</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=884271916-08122000>my
issue.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma   size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> arun   [mailto:arun_k_c_at_hotmail.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 07, 2000 7:22   PM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:   OFFTOPIC: DBA simulator RE: FreeOCP<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>   <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am already facing thats probs</FONT></DIV>   <BLOCKQUOTE
  style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">     <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>     <DIV
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>     <A href="mailto:Satar.Naghshineh_at_irvine.mellesgriot.com"     title=Satar.Naghshineh_at_irvine.mellesgriot.com>Satar Naghshineh</A> </DIV>     <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A     href="mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com" title=ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>Multiple     recipients of list ORACLE-L</A> </DIV>     <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 06, 2000 3:34     PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> OFFTOPIC: DBA simulator RE:     FreeOCP</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <P><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>haha&nbsp; Don't forget the     pages/calls from your spouse (if you're still married) wondering when you're     coming home.</FONT> </P>
    <P><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Regards,<BR>Satar</FONT> </P>     <UL>

      <P><FONT face=Arial size=1>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><B><FONT 
      face=Arial size=1>From:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT face=Arial 
      size=1>Jeffery Stevenson [SMTP:jeff_at_mpv.com]</FONT> <BR><B><FONT 
      face=Arial size=1>Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT face=Arial 
      size=1>Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:14 PM</FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=Arial 
      size=1>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT face=Arial 
      size=1>Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=Arial 
      size=1>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT 
      face=Arial size=1>RE: FreeOCP</FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp; What we need is a DBA simulator...a 
      virtual reality cubicle where you are</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial 
      size=2>constantly berated and harassed by AI managers and developers while 
      you are</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>trying to fix their problems 
      via your virtual workstation.&nbsp; To add realism,</FONT> <BR><FONT 
      face=Arial size=2>we could make it a 3-5 day simulation where it has one 
      of the virtual</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>managers call you at 3 
      in the morning jumping up and down screaming, "The</FONT> <BR><FONT 
      face=Arial size=2>database is broke!&nbsp; The database is broke!"&nbsp; 
      Of course, the&nbsp; programmer,</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>system 
      and network AIs will randomly spread the blame between the database</FONT> 
      <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>and the others...and after determining that it 
      isn't a database problem,</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>they'll 
      insist that you stay up and "watch the database and give them a 
      full</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>report"--just to be sure.&nbsp; It 
      could have the dual purpose of better testing</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial 
      size=2>the extent of someone's capabilities and scaring away the meek all 
      in one</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>fell swoop.&nbsp; :)</FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jeffery Stevenson</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial 
      size=2>Chief Databeast Tamer</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Medical 
      Present Value, Inc.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Austin, TX</FONT> 
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