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RE: FreeOCP and antidisenfranchisementarianism

From: Steve Orr <sorr_at_arzoo.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 09:51:39 -0800
Message-Id: <10704.124081@fatcity.com>


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RE: FreeOCP and antidisenfranchisementarianismYeah but then he may become disenfranchised. ;-)
  -----Original Message-----
  From: root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Mohan, Ross   Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 9:43 AM   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L   Subject: RE: FreeOCP and antidisenfranchisementarianism

  But Jared didn't say he'd read that one ( and if he did, he did not bill   me for it ) and if he does, it's because you alerted him, so.....

  you send him a check for half, and we'll call it even.

  ;->
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Anderson, Brian [mailto:andersob_at_mail.dartnet.peachnet.edu]     Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 10:52 AM     To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L     Subject: RE: FreeOCP and antidisenfranchisementarianism

    Now, that's 2 messages, you're up to $0.03.

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Mohan, Ross [mailto:MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com]
      Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 10:28 PM
      To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
      Subject: RE: FreeOCP and antidisenfranchisementarianism


      :-)

      Ok, mail me your address, I'll send you my $0.02
      ( you benefit from the round up ).




      -----Original Message-----
      From: jared still [mailto:jkstill_at_teleport.com]
      Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 10:40 AM
      To: Mohan, Ross
      Cc: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
      Subject: RE: FreeOCP and antidisenfranchisementarianism




      Ross,

      Reading this useless message cost $0.015 based on
      my current salary, not including benefits.

      I expect the check to me in the mail tomorrow.

      Jared

      On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Mohan, Ross wrote:


> I had to delete your message. Please don't make
> me click again.
>
> I am very cranky.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 3:35 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> ENUFF!!! ... even clicking delete takes time
>
> thank you ...
> nechama glasrot
> 561-981-0635
> nglasrot_at_edata.com
> >
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 2:53 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> Yeah but you don't want to "disenfranchise" anyone... :-)
>
> You need to adopt an attitude of antidisenfranchisementarianism.
(That's the
> new longest word in the English language that I have just coined.)
Don't
> tell it like it is. Don't take a stand. Eschew rhetoric, forget
absolute
> truth, go PC, get neutered, mollify your words, be more wishy-washy
and
> weasel your way into the hearts of your fellow man.
>
> NOT!
> Steve Orr... a recovering antidisenfranchisementarianist.
> >
> -----Original Message-----
> S
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 6:05 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> save the political correctness, too much of that crap goes on
already,
> people are entitled to their opinion whether you or anyone like it
or not.
> This crap of "what i think is right and what you think is right is
ok"
> stinks, post-modernists suck.
>
> joe
> >
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 7:42 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> Come on Rachel, this comment is a little overblown, I
> don't believe that some one who is a OCP DBA does not
> know how to shut down a database. These are things
> some one learns or should learn when they think about
> being a DBA. I am sure this topics are well covered in
> OCP exams. The fact is somebody likes to get certified
> and some people do not. Some body like institution and
> some do not. It is always a choice and everybody
> should respect either stand. Exceptions are on both
> the side.
>
> S.Talukder
> Sr.DBA
>
> . . . cut . . .
>
> --
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
> --
> Author: Steve Orr
> INET: sorr_at_arzoo.com
>
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Lists
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> Jared Still Certified Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist ;) jkstill_at_teleport.com jared_still_at_enron.net

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      <P><FONT size=3D2>:-)</FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>Ok, mail me your address, I'll send you my $0.02 =

      </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>( you benefit from the round up =
).</FONT>=20
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      <P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
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      jared still [<A=20
      =

href=3D"mailto:jkstill_at_teleport.com">mailto:jkstill_at_teleport.com</A>]</FO= NT>=20

      <BR><FONT size=3D2>Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 10:40 = AM</FONT>=20

      <BR><FONT size=3D2>To: Mohan, Ross</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Cc: = Multiple=20

      recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Subject: RE: = FreeOCP=20

      and antidisenfranchisementarianism</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>Ross,</FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>Reading this useless message cost $0.015 based =
on=20
      </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>my current salary, not including =
benefits.</FONT>=20
      </P>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>I expect the check to me in the mail =
tomorrow.</FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>Jared</FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Mohan, Ross wrote:</FONT> =
</P>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>&gt; I had to delete your message.&nbsp; Please =
don't=20
      make</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; me click again. =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
      size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; I am very cranky.=20
      </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
-----Original=20
      Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Sent: Wednesday, =
December 06,=20
      2000 3:35 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; To: Multiple =
recipients of list=20
      ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;=20
      </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; ENUFF!!! ... even clicking delete =
takes=20
      time</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
thank you=20
      ...</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; nechama glasrot</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
      size=3D2>&gt; 561-981-0635</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;=20
      nglasrot_at_edata.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT =

      size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; -----Original =
Message-----</FONT>=20
      <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 2:53 =
PM</FONT>=20
      <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; To: Multiple recipients of list =
ORACLE-L</FONT>=20
      <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
      size=3D2>&gt; Yeah but you don't want to "disenfranchise" =
anyone...&nbsp;=20
      :-)</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
You need to=20
      adopt an attitude of antidisenfranchisementarianism. (That's =
the</FONT>=20
      <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; new longest word in the English language =
that I have=20
      just coined.) Don't</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; tell it like it =
is. Don't=20
      take a stand. Eschew rhetoric, forget absolute</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
      size=3D2>&gt; truth, go PC, get neutered, mollify your words, be =
more=20
      wishy-washy and</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; weasel your way =
into the=20
      hearts of your fellow man.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
      size=3D2>&gt; NOT!</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Steve Orr... a =
recovering=20
      antidisenfranchisementarianist.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;=20
      </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
-----Original=20
      Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; S</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;=20
      Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 6:05 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;=20
      To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;=20
      </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; save the political correctness, too =
much of=20
      that crap goes on already,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; people =
are=20
      entitled to their opinion whether you or anyone like it or =
not.</FONT>=20
      <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; This crap of "what i think is right and =
what you=20
      think is right is ok"</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; stinks, =
post-modernists=20
      suck.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt; joe</FONT>=20
      <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
      size=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt; Sent:=20
      Wednesday, December 06, 2000 7:42 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt; To:=20
      Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;=20
      </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; Come on Rachel, this comment =
is a=20
      little overblown, I</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; don't believe =
that some=20
      one who is a OCP DBA does not</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; know =
how to=20
      shut down a database. These are things</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt; some=20
      one learns or should learn when they think about</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
      size=3D2>&gt; being a DBA. I am sure this topics are well covered =
in</FONT>=20
      <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; OCP exams. The fact is somebody likes to =
get=20
      certified</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; and some people do not. =
Some body=20
      like institution and</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; some do not. =
It is=20
      always a choice and everybody</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
should respect=20
      either stand. Exceptions are on both</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt; the=20
      side.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;=20
      S.Talukder</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Sr.DBA</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
      size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; . . . cut . . =
.</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
      size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; -- </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;=20
      Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: <A =
href=3D"http://www.orafaq.com"=20
      target=3D_blank>http://www.orafaq.com</A></FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt; --=20
      </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Author: Steve Orr</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
      size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; INET: sorr_at_arzoo.com</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;=20
      </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Fat City Network =
Services&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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