Message-Id: <10693.122943@fatcity.com> From: "Mohan, Ross" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:01:29 -0500 Subject: RE: Where is DBA position in your organization? This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C05882.EC057FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Wow, and you said all you gave up to live in Montana was the salary. The plot thickens...... -----Original Message----- From: Weaver, Walt [mailto:wweaver@rightnow.com] Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 8:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Where is DBA position in your organization? Lucky boy. We would love to report to IS. Unfortunately, we report to the Vice President of Customer Services. Scenario (happens every day, really!): Phone rings: "Hello, this is Walt". "Hey, Walt, this is Jethro". (name changed to protect the guilty). "Hey, Jethro, what's up?". "Well, we just got an irate call from the White House. They say their web site is slow. I called development and they say their code is optimized to the nth degree and it must be a problem on the SA/Oracle side". "Well, Jethro, I take issue with that. We just tkprof'd the hell out of the whole app, and it's currently redefining the meaning of 'cartesion join'. Not a whole lot we can do on our end". "Walt, I don't care what you think. Users are pissed off and the whole Development Department are up in the Beartooths hunting this weekend. Fix it or start driving school buses". "Can't, Jethro. I'm hunting this weekend too." "Bullshit, Walt. My 11-year-old daughter told me that your 11-year-old-daughter said that you're flying her to Helena to visit some friends. No excuse. Fix, it, or Monday morning you'll be driving the school bus that picks up my daughter, Jermaine". Phone goes dead. I spend the rest of my day cursing middle management. But, I'm getting DAMN good at tuning SQL statements. :>) And, sometimes living in a small town ain't all that great. :>) --Walt Weaver Bozeman, Montana, USA -----Original Message----- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 11/25/2000 7:50 AM In our group we are the SA's. We have a small shop and the DBA's/SA's report to the Director of IS Operations. We also support the development teams and do some design work. Our primary responsibility is to keep the production systems up, available, and tuned. So, when conflicts between prod vs dev come up the production is primary. Rodd Holman Enterprise Data Systems Engineer LodgeNet Entertainment Corporation rodney.holman@lodgenet.com Comments made are my own opinions and views. They do not represent views, policies, or procedures of LodgeNet Entertainment Corporation -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Weaver, Walt INET: wweaver@rightnow.com Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). ------_=_NextPart_001_01C05882.EC057FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Where is DBA position in your organization?

Wow, and you said all you gave up to live in
Montana was the salary.

The plot thickens......

-----Original Message-----
From: Weaver, Walt [mailto:wweaver@rightnow.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 8:55 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Where is DBA position in your organization?


Lucky boy. We would love to report to IS. Unfortunately, we report to the
Vice President of Customer Services.

Scenario (happens every day, really!):

Phone rings: "Hello, this is Walt".

"Hey, Walt, this is Jethro". (name changed to protect the guilty).

"Hey, Jethro, what's up?".

"Well, we just got an irate call from the White House. They say their web
site is slow. I called development and they say their code is optimized to
the nth degree and it must be a problem on the SA/Oracle side".

"Well, Jethro, I take issue with that. We just tkprof'd the hell out of the
whole app, and it's currently redefining the meaning of 'cartesion join'.
Not a whole lot we can do on our end".

"Walt, I don't care what you think. Users are pissed off and the whole
Development Department are up in the Beartooths hunting this weekend. Fix it
or start driving school buses".

"Can't, Jethro. I'm hunting this weekend too."

"Bullshit, Walt. My 11-year-old daughter told me that your
11-year-old-daughter said that you're flying her to Helena to visit some
friends. No excuse. Fix, it, or Monday morning you'll be driving the school
bus that picks up my daughter, Jermaine".

Phone goes dead. I spend the rest of my day cursing middle management.

But, I'm getting DAMN good at tuning SQL statements.  :>)

And, sometimes living in a small town ain't all that great.  :>)

--Walt Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana, USA

-----Original Message-----
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sent: 11/25/2000 7:50 AM

In our group we are the SA's.  We have a small shop and the DBA's/SA's
report to the Director of IS Operations.  We also support the
development
teams and do some design work.  Our primary responsibility is to keep
the
production systems up, available, and tuned.  So, when conflicts between
prod vs dev come up the production is primary.

Rodd Holman
Enterprise Data Systems Engineer
LodgeNet Entertainment Corporation
rodney.holman@lodgenet.com
Comments made are my own opinions and views. They do not represent
views,
policies, or procedures of LodgeNet Entertainment Corporation
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