RE: Need an explanation for

From: James Bullard <jbullard_at_onvia.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:49:03 -0700
Message-Id: <10652.119518@fatcity.com>

This is true for remote logins as sysdba or sysoper but not if you are part of the dba group on the box. However, it is different on NT.

HTH,
James

-----Original Message-----
From: Nikolay Kumanov [mailto:nkumanov_at_zgb.bg] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 8:47 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Need an explanation for

My understanding is that the password file is used to store the passwords for the password (not OS) authenticated users with SYSDBA and SYSOPER privileges. Thus Oracle can authenticate them before the data dictionary is available.

HTH, Dr. Nikolay Kumanov

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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 4:06 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Hi DBAs,

I have a funny query in my mind & I a convincing explanation from You. I granted DBA role to scott user for test purpose. But scott is able to connect as SUSDBA thru svrmgrl & able to start , shut the database.

My doubt is , during startup when the datanase is not up how DBA role is effective to scott user as Oracle has not mounted the data dictionery to refer the roles granted to scott user.

Any explanations please ?

I have give the sequence of actions below as it was.

Thanks

S Jayakumar

Connected.
SVRMGR> create role abc ;
Statement processed.
SVRMGR> grant dba to abc ;
Statement processed.
SVRMGR> grant abc to scott;
Statement processed.
SVRMGR> shutdown
Database closed.
Database dismounted.
ORACLE instance shut down.

SVRMGR>
SVRMGR>
SVRMGR> connect scott/tiger as sysdba;

Connected.
SVRMGR> startup
ORACLE instance started.

Total System Global Area                          7650832 bytes
Fixed Size                                          48656 bytes
Variable Size                                     6701056 bytes
Database Buffers                                   819200 bytes
Redo Buffers                                        81920 bytes

Database mounted.
Database opened.
SVRMGR> shutdown
Database closed.
Database dismounted.
ORACLE instance shut down.

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