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Re: Oracle on NT vs Oracle on Linux

From: Charles Wolfe <cwolfe_at_ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:01:41 -0400
Message-Id: <10639.118445@fatcity.com>


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Hi Joe,

I most definitely did NOT say anything in favor of NT, I merely said = that the factors the poster listed should not be considered relevant for = choosing an operating system to host a business database. In fact, I = much prefer Linux (and am currently running RedHat 7 on my laptop), but = if I mentioned the inclusion of source code and the fact that it can be = had for free as compelling reasons for a customer to choose Linux over = any other operating system to host a business database, I would be = laughed out of the room. Sure, there is lots of support available in = the Linux community, but is anyone posting to a listserv or newsgroup = accountable for the advice they post? NO. And speaking of sucking = money, Uncle Larry definitely ain't running a charitable institution.

Chuck=20

  Oh please, there is more support and chance of getting something = fixed in linux world than EVER IN WINDOZE world. Just how do you = expect something like NT to run business critical apps when the solution = for anything that goes wrong is reboot or reload.=20   yea this is a sore spot, cuz M$ sucks, the software sucks, the company = sucks people's money.=20

  joe=20
=20
=20
=20

   Wolfe wrote:=20

    For business decision makers, and most DBAs the inclusion of = operating system source code is not terribly relevant. Free also = generally implies unsupported or informally supported (i.e. listservs, = newsgroups...) which is not acceptable for business critical = applications.=20

      Regards,=20
      Satar=20

        -----Original Message-----=20
        From:  Andrey Bronfin [SMTP:bronfin_at_navixo.com]=20
        Sent:  Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:27 PM=20
        To:    ORACLE-L_at_lists.sunysb.edu; ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com; =
oracledba_at_quickdoc.co.uk=20
        Subject:       Oracle on NT vs Oracle on Linux=20
        Dear list !=20

        A friend asked me this question :=20

        they want to build an Oracle DB on a server ( PC ) dedicated =
exclusively for the DB .=20
        They ask whether it is better to put a Linux or an NT on that PC =
.=20
        I.e which OS is better for hosting an Oracle DB on PC ?=20
        What are the pros & cons of each ?=20
        They are mostly concerned about reliability & performance .=20

        TIA .=20
         =20

        Andrey Bronfin=20
        VisualTop.com=20
         =20
         =20
        =20

--=20
Joe Testa http://www.oracle-dba.com

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Joe,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I most definitely did NOT say anything =
in favor of=20
NT, I merely said that the factors the poster listed should not be = considered=20
relevant for choosing an&nbsp;operating system to host a business=20 database.&nbsp; In fact, I much prefer Linux (and am currently running = RedHat 7=20
on my laptop), but if I mentioned the inclusion of source code and the = fact that=20
it can be had for free as compelling reasons for a customer to choose = Linux over=20
any other operating system to host a business database, I would be = laughed out=20
of the room.&nbsp; Sure, there is lots of support&nbsp;available in the = Linux=20
community, but is anyone&nbsp;posting to a listserv or newsgroup = accountable for=20
the advice they post?&nbsp; NO.&nbsp; And speaking of sucking money, = Uncle Larry=20
definitely ain't running a charitable institution.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chuck</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20

style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>   <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:teci_at_oracle-dba.com" = title=3Dteci_at_oracle-dba.com>Joseph S.=20   Testa</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href=3D"mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com"=20
  title=3DORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</A> = </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 03, 2000 = 11:10=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Oracle on NT vs = Oracle on=20
  Linux</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Oh please,&nbsp;&nbsp; there is more support and chance = of=20
  getting something fixed in linux world than EVER&nbsp;IN&nbsp;WINDOZE=20   world.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Just how do you expect something like NT to = run=20
  business critical apps when the solution for anything that goes wrong = is=20
  reboot or reload.=20
  <P>yea this is a sore spot, cuz M$ sucks, the software sucks, the = company=20
  sucks people's money.=20
  <P>joe <BR>&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp;=20
  <P>&nbsp;Wolfe wrote:=20
  <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">

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    <FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>For business decision makers, and = most DBAs=20

    the inclusion of operating system source code is not terribly=20     relevant.&nbsp; Free also generally implies unsupported or = informally=20

    supported (i.e. listservs, newsgroups...) which is not acceptable = for=20

    business critical applications.</FONT></FONT>=20     <BLOCKQUOTE=20
    style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">

      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B><A=20
      href=3D"mailto:Satar.Naghshineh_at_irvine.mellesgriot.com"=20
      title=3DSatar.Naghshineh_at_irvine.mellesgriot.com>Satar =
Naghshineh</A></DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      href=3D"mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com" =
title=3DORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>Multiple=20
      recipients of list ORACLE-L</A></DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 03, =
2000 4:55=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Oracle on NT =
vs Oracle=20
      on Linux</DIV>&nbsp;<FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D-1><A=20
      href=3D"http://www.unix-vs-nt.org">www.unix-vs-nt.org</A>&nbsp; =
the kirch=20
      paper</FONT></FONT></FONT>=20
      <P><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D-1>Linux =
is better=20
      because it's free and they provide the source =
code.</FONT></FONT></FONT>=20
      <P><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
      size=3D-1>Regards,</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
      color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D-1>Satar</FONT></FONT></FONT>=20
      <UL><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-2>-----Original=20
        Message-----</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
        size=3D-2><B>From:&nbsp; </B>Andrey Bronfin [<A=20
        =

href=3D"mailto:SMTP:bronfin_at_navixo.com">SMTP:bronfin_at_navixo.com</A>]</FON= T></FONT>=20

        <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-2><B>Sent:&nbsp; = </B>Tuesday, October=20

        03, 2000 6:27 PM</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
        size=3D-2><B>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </B><A=20
        =

href=3D"mailto:ORACLE-L_at_lists.sunysb.edu">ORACLE-L_at_lists.sunysb.edu</A>; =

        <A =
href=3D"mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com">ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</A>; <A=20

        =
href=3D"mailto:oracledba_at_quickdoc.co.uk">oracledba_at_quickdoc.co.uk</A></FO= NT></FONT>=20

        <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
        size=3D-2><B>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</B>Oracle on NT=20
        vs Oracle on Linux</FONT></FONT>=20
        <P><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>Dear list !</FONT></FONT>=20
        <P><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>A friend asked me this =
question=20
        :</FONT></FONT>=20
        <P><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>they want to build an =
Oracle DB on a=20
        server ( PC ) dedicated exclusively for the DB .</FONT></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
        face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>They ask whether it is better to =
put a Linux or=20
        an NT on that PC .</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D-1>I.e=20
        which OS is better for hosting an Oracle DB on PC =
?</FONT></FONT>=20
        <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>What are the pros &amp; =
cons of each=20
        ?</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>They are =
mostly=20
        concerned about reliability &amp; performance .</FONT></FONT>=20
        <P><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>TIA .</FONT></FONT> =
<BR>&nbsp;=20
        <P><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>Andrey =
Bronfin</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT=20
        face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>VisualTop.com</FONT></FONT> =
<BR>&nbsp;=20
        <BR>&nbsp; =
Received on Wed Oct 04 2000 - 06:01:41 CDT

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