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AW: Extremely slow querry

From: Schoen Volker <v.schoen_at_inplan.de>
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:05:42 +0200
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analyze table PS_JOB JOB compute statistics; analyze table PS_FAST_SCRTY_2 SEC compute statistics; =20
do the same for indexes on this tables
=20
analyze index i???? compute statistics;

Volker Sch=F6n=20
E-Mail: mailto:v.schoen_at_inplan.de <mailto:v.schoen_at_inplan.de> =20 http://www.inplan.de <http://www.inplan.de/> =20

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Siva_Chintalapati [mailto:Siva_Chintalapati_at_satyam.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 4. August 2000 08:34
An: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Betreff: RE: Extremely slow querry

Hello ,=20
Please say me how to compute and estimate stastics.=20

Regards=20
Siva=20

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From: Gunawan Yuwono[SMTP:gunawan.yuwono_at_webbox.com]=20 Reply To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com=20
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 7:16 PM=20

To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20
Subject:        RE: Extremely slow querry=20


	Just a thought,=20

Try analyzing the indexes on those tables. Also, if possible,=20 try to use COMPUTE instead of ESTIMATE.=20

        Do the Explain Plan again and compare it with the previous one.=20

        Suggestion: you might want to run a script to analyze the objects(tables,=20
indexes, etc.) on a regular basis using cron.=20

        HTP.=20         Gunawan Yuwono=20
Oracle DBA=20
Kansas City, MO=20

        >--- Original Message ---=20
>From: "Jack van Zanen" <nlzanen1_at_ey.nl>=20
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>=20
>Date: 8/3/00 11:25:28 AM=20
>=20

        >=20
>=20
>=20
>Hi All,=20
>=20
>=20
>Peoplesoap database=20
>Oracle 8.0.5=20
>AIX 4.3.2=20
>=20
>=20
>*************=20
>SELECT=20
> JOB.EMPLID,=20
> JOB.EMPL_RCD#,=20
> SEC.OPRCLASS,=20
> SEC.ACCESS_CD=20
>FROM=20
> PS_JOB JOB,=20
> PS_FAST_SCRTY_2 SEC=20
>WHERE=20
> SEC.ACCESS_CD =3D 'Y'=20
> AND SEC.SETID =3D JOB.SETID_DEPT=20
> AND SEC.DEPTID =3D JOB.DEPTID=20
>=20
>****************=20
>=20
>This is a select that is part of a PS view (stripped version)=20
and takes 30=20
>minutes to run=20
>The explain plan shows just a nested loop with the smaller table=20
>(ps_fast_scrty_2 5500 records) as the driving table=20
>and the large table (180.000 records) is not even accessed,=20
all needed=20
>information comes out of the index.=20
>=20
>This is a small database on a machine that should be capable=20
of a lot more.=20
>=20
>Anybody any idea???=20
>=20
>=20
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verspreiding=20
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size=3D2>a<SPAN class=3D844350409-04082000>nalyze table </SPAN>PS_JOB = JOB<SPAN=20
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face=3DArial size=3D2>a<SPAN class=3D844350409-04082000>nalyze = table</SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D844350409-04082000> PS_FAST_SCRTY_2 SEC&nbsp; compute=20 statistics;</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D844350409-04082000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D844350409-04082000></SPAN><SPAN=20 class=3D844350409-04082000></SPAN><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial = size=3D2>a<SPAN=20
class=3D844350409-04082000>nalyze index i???? compute=20 statistics;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Volker Sch=F6n</FONT> = <BR><FONT=20
color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>E-Mail:</FONT><U> <FONT = color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"mailto:v.schoen_at_inplan.de">mailto:v.schoen_at_inplan.de</A></FONT><= /U>=20
<BR><U><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><A = href=3D"http://www.inplan.de/"=20
target=3D_blank>http://www.inplan.de</A></FONT></U> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> = Siva_Chintalapati=20
  [mailto:Siva_Chintalapati_at_satyam.com]<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Freitag, 4. = August=20
  2000 08:34<BR><B>An:</B> Multiple recipients of list=20   ORACLE-L<BR><B>Betreff:</B> RE: Extremely slow = querry<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <P><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello ,</FONT> = <BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>Please say me how to compute = and estimate=20
  stastics.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT> = <BR><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>Siva</FONT> </P>   <UL>
    <P><FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif" size=3D1>----------</FONT> = <BR><B><FONT=20

    face=3D"MS Sans Serif" size=3D1>From:</FONT></B> &nbsp; <FONT=20     face=3D"MS Sans Serif" size=3D1>Gunawan=20     Yuwono[SMTP:gunawan.yuwono_at_webbox.com]</FONT> <BR><B><FONT=20     face=3D"MS Sans Serif" size=3D1>Reply To:</FONT></B>=20     &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif"=20     size=3D1>ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=3D"MS Sans = Serif"=20

    size=3D1>Sent:</FONT></B> &nbsp; <FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif" = size=3D1>Thursday,=20

    August 03, 2000 7:16 PM</FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif"=20     size=3D1>To:</FONT></B> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT face=3D"MS Sans = Serif"=20

    size=3D1>Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><B><FONT=20     face=3D"MS Sans Serif" size=3D1>Subject:</FONT></B>=20     &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif" = size=3D1>RE:=20

    Extremely slow querry</FONT> </P><BR>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just a thought,</FONT> <BR><FONT = face=3DArial=20

    size=3D2>Try analyzing the indexes on those tables. Also, if = possible,</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>try to use COMPUTE instead of = ESTIMATE.</FONT>=20

    </P>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do the Explain Plan again and = compare it with the=20

    previous one.</FONT> </P>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Suggestion: you might want to run a = script to=20

    analyze the objects(tables,</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>indexes,=20

    etc.) on a regular basis using cron.</FONT> </P>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HTP.</FONT> </P>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gunawan Yuwono</FONT> <BR><FONT = face=3DArial=20

    size=3D2>Oracle DBA</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kansas = City, MO</FONT>=20

    </P>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;--- Original Message ---</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20

    face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;From: "Jack van Zanen" = &lt;nlzanen1_at_ey.nl&gt;</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;To: Multiple recipients of list = ORACLE-L=20
    &lt;ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt;Date:=20

    8/3/00 11:25:28 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> </P>

    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20     size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> = <BR><FONT=20

    face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;Hi All,</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt;</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20     size=3D2>&gt;Peoplesoap database</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt;Oracle=20

    8.0.5</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;AIX 4.3.2</FONT> = <BR><FONT=20

    face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt;</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;*************</FONT> <BR><FONT = face=3DArial=20

    size=3D2>&gt;SELECT</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

    JOB.EMPLID,</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

    JOB.EMPL_RCD#,</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

    SEC.OPRCLASS,</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

    SEC.ACCESS_CD</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt;FROM</FONT> <BR><FONT=20

    face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PS_JOB JOB,</FONT> = <BR><FONT=20

    face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PS_FAST_SCRTY_2 = SEC</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;WHERE</FONT> <BR><FONT = face=3DArial=20

    size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; SEC.ACCESS_CD =3D&nbsp; = 'Y'</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20     AND&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; SEC.SETID =3D JOB.SETID_DEPT</FONT> = <BR><FONT=20

    face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = AND&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

    SEC.DEPTID =3D JOB.DEPTID</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt;</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;****************</FONT> =
<BR><FONT face=3DArial=20

    size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;This is a = select that is=20

    part of a PS view (stripped version)</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>and=20

    takes 30</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;minutes to = run</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;The explain plan shows just a = nested loop=20

    with the smaller table</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20     size=3D2>&gt;(ps_fast_scrty_2&nbsp; 5500 records) as the driving = table</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;and the large table (180.000 = records) is not=20

    even accessed,</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all = needed</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;information comes out of the = index.</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt;This=20

    is a small database on a machine that should be capable</FONT> = <BR><FONT=20

    face=3DArial size=3D2>of a lot more.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20     size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;Anybody = any=20

    idea???</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> = <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20

    size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20     =
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    bericht is uitsluitend</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>bestemd=20

    voor</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;de geadresseerde. = Gebruik van=20

    deze informatie door anderen dan</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20     size=3D2>de</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt;geadresseerde is verboden.=20

    Openbaarmaking, vermenigvuldiging,</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20     size=3D2>verspreiding</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt;en/of=20

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    size=3D2>&gt;information contained in this communication nor for = any=20

    delay</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in its</FONT> = <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20

    size=3D2>&gt;receipt.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20     =
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    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20     size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> = <BR><FONT=20

    face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;-- </FONT><BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt;Author: Jack=20

    van Zanen</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; INET:=20     nlzanen1_at_ey.nl</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> = <BR><FONT=20

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