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I would give them only the exact privilages they need to do the job. Being a test platform I wouldn't really have any problems with giving out the DBA password until the first time they muck something up.
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip West [mailto:P.West_at_g-icap.com]
Sent: 25 July 2000 14:05
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: DO I GIVE PROGRAMMERS ORACLE DBA ACCOUNT?
DBA is a Responsibility level.
Are they willing to share Responsibility if the system goes down? If not then they don't get it. There is NO reason why they need unbridled access. If bosses start complaining then spell it out.
If the boss says 'You do as I say - give it to them'
Then put it in writing 'I am doing this because you told me to against my best advice and you must understand that unqualified people now have the ability to trash the database beyond recoverability'
e-mail it to him and add a long list on the cc including the 'owner' of the end-product they are developing.
Phil West
Unix Sys Admin and Oracle Financials DBA
+44 (0) 20 7623 5222 x5221
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:Donna_M_Vail_at_sd.fisc.navy.mil]
Sent: 24 July 2000 19:58
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sending this again, Because I did not have a subject last time.
I sure would appreciate some opinions on this. At my place of work we have
two teams in our division. One team is the application programmers and the
other team is UNIX system/Oracle DBAs. I have a new platform that just
came in. I need to set up the Oracle database and Oracle Application
Server
on it. Here's the question. My application programmer wants the
Oracle
DBA account and the sys account. This platform is not a test platform.
Yes they are developing on this platform and then it will go into
production. My Oracle DBA's do not want to give out the accounts to
the
developers.
Who do I please?
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