Re: OCP guidance(ranting)

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I beg to differ on the junio DBA part, my first job after the military was as a Unix SA, first day on the job(this is back in '92, oracle 6 days), my new boss asked, "do you know anything about oracle?", my reply was no, but does it come with instructions?, She says "yes"(she must have used the term lossely, as v6 install guide was lame at best).

they wanted it installed on the sun os box i was playing SA on. hence my career in oracle began that way.

with the shortage of people in the oracle dba arena(much less IT), companies yes are looking for some kind of way to "think" you're a DBA and maybe OCP fills it for now but passing a test does not make someone a DBA.

<soapbox mode off>

Joe
Going to openworld, lets meet or at least come and introduce yourself, i'll be presenting.

"Boivin, Patrice J" wrote:

> Some people are focused on OCP because they are changing careers, and so
> they have to start somewhere.
>
> You can't get a job as a junior DBA if you don't have any Oracle experience,
> and the OCP gives people a chance to start somewhere.
>
> The OCP also provides a broad base of knowledge re. whatever track you are
> doing. But it doesn't mean by any stretch of the imagination that you are
> ready to be put in charge of major systems or that you are an expert on
> Oracle!
>
> Having a broad base of knowledge to start with is an advantage, in that you
> know the context before you start. When people learn on the job they only
> know what they did, sometimes this means there are whole areas re. Oracle
> that are completely missed because it is not part of your work environment.
> OCP can help round things off if you are in that situation. Having both in
> my opinion is definitely an asset.
>
> Regards,
> Patrice Boivin
> Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
>
> Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
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>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph S. Testa [SMTP:teci_at_oracle-dba.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 9:07 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re: OCP guidance(ranting)
>
> Why is are so many people on the list so big on OCP, learn to be a
> DBA
> first, the OCP will be easy enough after you learn the basics.
> Being
> OCP does NOT make you a good DBA( recruiters on the list are you
> LISTENING??????).
>
> and yes I'm OCP but I got 8 years of oracle dba experience to back
> it
> up, only reason I took it was my current employer at the time, paid
> for
> the tests and gave me 3K bonus to pass it.
>
> Joe
>
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