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RE: Tell me about the confused OCP.

From: Siva_Chintalapati <Siva_Chintalapati_at_satyam.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:17:17 +0530
Message-Id: <10558.112038@fatcity.com>


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Hi,
ThanX.Will this book Osborne's DBA Certification Exam Guide provide full assistance.Is this enough.What are the topics this book is providing.Can U pl give the overall contents .

Thanks & Regards
Siva

> ----------
> From: VIVEK_SHARMA[SMTP:vivek_sharma_at_inf.com]
> Reply To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 1:05 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Tell me about the confused OCP.
>
>
>
> SITES :
> http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com
> http://www.selftestsoftware.com
> http://education.oracle.com.
> http://www.brainbench.org/
> http://www.revealnet.com/
> Oracle Certified Courseware & the practice test can be downloaded from
> the
> Oracle site http://www.oracle.com
>
>
> BOOKS :-
>
> Osborne's DBA Certification Exam Guide
>
> Some picked from the list itself
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Siva_Chintalapati [SMTP:Siva_Chintalapati_at_satyam.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 11:05 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: Tell me about the confused OCP.
> >
> > HI,
> > I want to do OCP .Till now I did not take any exam for OCP.Can U please
> > upgrade me the Material I have to follow and the Site available for this
> > material,so that I can down load.Or can I get manuals for Oracle 8.I am
> > interested to take over the OCP exam on Oracle 8.What are the papers and
> > what is the material I have to follow.Please update me the earliest.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > Siva
> >
> > ----------
> > From: Surendra_Tirumala[SMTP:Surendra_Tirumala_at_hht.satyam.com]
> > Reply To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 1:25 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: Tell me about the confused OCP.
> >
> > Here is the reply from Oracle to my mail regarding validity of the
> > certification
> >
> >
> > ====================================================
> > From: webteam <webteam_at_us.oracle.com> Save Address - Block Sender
> > Reply-To: webteam_at_us.oracle.com
> > To: sutirumala_at_hotmail.com Save Address
> > Subject: Re: validity of Oracle7.3 DBA OCP certification
> > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:26:38 -0700
> > Reply Reply All Forward Delete Previous Next Close
> >
> >
> > If you are already certified in Oracle7.3 you have a valid
> > certification.
> > Just because we are expiring the Oracle7.3 exams on August 31, 2000
> > it does not affect the validity of your cetification. If you want to
> > upgrade
> > to Oracle8 OCP, you need to pass just one exams titled: "Oracle8 New
> > Features
> > for Administrators".
> > To upgrade to Oracle8i, after you pass the Oracle8 New Features for
> > Administrators exam, you need to pass just
> > one more exam titled "Oracle8i New Features for Database
> Administrators".
> >
> > Surendra.Tirumala_at_us.oracle.com wrote:
> >
> > > The following person responded on the web:
> > >
> > > Name: Surendra Tirumala
> > > Email Address: sutirumala_at_hotmail.com
> > > Subject of Message:
> > >
> > > Page where user experienced problem:
> > >
> > > Feedback:
> > > I am a Oracle 7.3 certified DBA.I completed my certification on
> > 02-dec-2000.I
> > am in confusion about validity of my certificate.I am planning to take
> up
> > Oracle
> > 8 and 8i upgradation exams after three months time from now.I would like
> > to know
> > whether I will be given the credit of taking only upgradation exams any
> > time of
> > my choice.
> > > Please clarify...
> > > regards,
> > > surendra
> > >
> > =========================================================
> >
> > ----------
> > From: Janardhana Babu
> > Reply To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 4:39 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: Tell me about the confused OCP.
> >
> > Iam under the impression that I need to upgrade my
> > certification before the
> > older version expires. Actually, I saw the expiration date(August 2000)
> > for
> > Oracle7exam, and I upgraded to Oracle8 in Jan this year. When contacted,
>
> > they told me that I need too upgrade to Oracle8 before Aug 2000. If
> failed
> >
> > to upgrade before Aug 2000, my certification would be invalid and I need
> > to
> > take all the Oracle 8 exams(6, I believe) to get into the certification
> > path
> > again. Also, they said, I need to take Oracle8 upgrade exam and then
> only
> > eligible to take oracle8i upgrade exam and I can't bypass oracle8
> upgrade
> > exam and take oracle8i upgrade exam. directly from oracle7 cert.
> >
> > My question is, after a few years oracle stops offering oracle8 upgrade
> > exam( just like Oracle7 exam), then how can I appear for Oracle8i
> upgrade
> > exam if I have only Oracle7 cert and not Oracle8 cert? Since it is not
> > possible to bypass oracle8 upgrade exam inorder to get oracle8i cert.,
> it
> > will be of no use to hold oracle7 cert. which automatically force you to
>
> > take all the oracle8i or 9i exams at some point in time. Let me know if
>
> > what I think is wrong.
> >
> > -- Janardhana Babu
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 2:57 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > Janardhan,
> > I was also in the same impression two months back.
> > I sent mail to Oracle (i don't remeber the exact address now) requesting
>
> > clarification reg this.
> > They clearly replied stating what I had mentioned in my earlier reply.
> > I have that reply also with me in my hotmail account which I cannot
> access
> >
> > now.I had forwarded that mail to some of my friends.
> >
> > I will try to get it and post it over here.
> >
> > Surendra
> > OCP DBA
> >
> > ----------
> > Reply To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 1:26 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> > I do not think the certification is valid forever.
> > We need to take
> > the
> > upgrade exam before your certification expires. The expiration dates
> will
> > be
> >
> > available at <http://education.oracle.com> <
> > <http://education.oracle.com>> <
> > <http://education.oracle.com> < <http://education.oracle.com>> >
> > After the expiration date, we need to start all over again to get the
> > certification. Let me know if Iam wrong.
> >
> > -- Janardhana Babu
> > OCP DBA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:18 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > Xiaoliang Chen,
> > Once you are certfied in any particular stream( 7/8/8i), your
> > certification
> > is valid forever.And whenever you want to take up the upgradation exam
> > just
> > take it.
> >
> > Best thing for you is to go for 8 stream and later
> > you can think of
> > taking
> > up 8i upgradation.My observation is that it is much difficult to clear
> 8i
> > exam directly because of so many new features.
> >
> > Surendra
> >
> > ----------
> > Reply To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 11:46 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> > hi, all,
> >
> > I decide to pass my OCP DBA in two months.
> > But I do not if I
> >
> > directly choose
> > Oracle8i test package or choose Oracle8 test package and then have a
> > Oracle8i new features test.
> >
> > One of my friend said this to me:
> > Let me tell you why it is not good to do oracle 8i at the moment.
> > 1. It will cost you a lot since no one has the stuff for oracle 8i and
> is
> > selling it on the net.
> > 2. the market will not revert to oracle 8i before a couple of years,
> > because mosst companies recently migrated from oracle 7.3 to oracle 8
> > 3. if you do oracle 8 and give the upgrade exam you will have two
> > certification. oracle 8 dba and 8i dba.
> >
> > I am afraid I could hardly get Exam crams
> > about Oracle8i at
> > this
> > time. Maybe
> > I should first pass the Oracle8 and then pass the upgrate test.
> > But someone tell me one must pass the upgrate test in 6 months from the
> > day
> > the new version was coming up. Which mean if Oracle8i was coming up on
> > 01/01/00, I have to pass the upgrate test from Oracle8 to Oracle8i
> before
> > 07/01/00. That mean I could not the upgrate test.....I am so
> > confused....help me!
> > What is your all 's suggestion? Please give me a reply. Your reply will
> be
> >
> > fully appreciated.
> >
> > Best wishes!
> > Yours sincerely, Xiaoliang Chen
> > ___________________________________
> > SUN certified Solaris7 System Administrator
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Author: Xiaoliang Chen
> > INET: ochen_at_netrue.com
> >
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Hi,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">ThanX.Will this book</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"></FONT><B> <FONT SIZE=3D2 = FACE=3D"Arial">Osborne's DBA Certification&nbsp; Exam Guide</FONT></B> = <FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">provide full assistance.Is this = enough.What are the topics this book is providing.Can U pl give the = overall contents .</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Thanks &amp; Regards</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Siva</FONT>
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Serif">VIVEK_SHARMA[SMTP:vivek_sharma_at_inf.com]</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">Reply To:</FONT></B> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"MS Sans = Serif">ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">SITES :</FONT> <BR><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A = HREF=3D"http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com</A></FONT></U> <BR><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A = HREF=3D"http://www.selftestsoftware.com" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.selftestsoftware.com</A></FONT></U> <BR><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A = HREF=3D"http://education.oracle.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://education.oracle.com</A></FONT></U><FONT = SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">.</FONT>
<BR><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A = HREF=3D"http://www.brainbench.org/" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.brainbench.org/</A></FONT></U><FONT = SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> </FONT>
<BR><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A = HREF=3D"http://www.revealnet.com/" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.revealnet.com/</A></FONT></U> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Oracle Certified Courseware &amp; the = practice test&nbsp; can be downloaded from the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Oracle site</FONT><U> <FONT = COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A = HREF=3D"http://www.oracle.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.oracle.com</A></FONT></U> </P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">BOOKS :-</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Osborne's DBA Certification&nbsp; Exam = Guide</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Some picked from the list itself =
</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; From: Siva_Chintalapati = [SMTP:Siva_Chintalapati_at_satyam.com]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 = 11:05 AM</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; To:&nbsp;&nbsp; Multiple =
recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; =
Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RE: Tell me about the confused =
OCP.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; HI, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; I want to do OCP .Till now I did =
not take any exam for OCP.Can U please</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; upgrade me the Material I have = to follow and the Site available for this</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; material,so that I can down = load.Or can I get manuals for Oracle 8.I am</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; interested to take over the OCP = exam on Oracle 8.What are the papers and</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; what is the material I have to = follow.Please update me the earliest.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Thanks &amp; Regards </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Siva </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
---------- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; From:&nbsp;&nbsp; = Surendra_Tirumala[SMTP:Surendra_Tirumala_at_hht.satyam.com] </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Reply = To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp; Friday, July = 14, 2000 1:25 AM </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; = Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RE: Tell me about = the confused OCP. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = Here is the reply from Oracle to my mail regarding&nbsp; validity of = the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; certification </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; From:&nbsp; webteam = &lt;webteam_at_us.oracle.com&gt; Save Address - Block Sender </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Reply-To:&nbsp; = webteam_at_us.oracle.com </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; To:&nbsp; sutirumala_at_hotmail.com = Save Address </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Subject:&nbsp; Re: validity of = Oracle7.3 DBA OCP certification </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Date:&nbsp; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 = 13:26:38 -0700 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Reply Reply All Forward&nbsp; =
Delete&nbsp; Previous Next&nbsp; Close </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = If you are already certified in Oracle7.3 you have a valid</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; certification. </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Just because we are expiring the = Oracle7.3 exams on August 31, 2000 </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; it does not affect the validity = of your cetification.&nbsp; If you want to</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; upgrade </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; to Oracle8 OCP, you need to pass = just one exams titled: &quot;Oracle8 New</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Features </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; for Administrators&quot;. =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; To upgrade to Oracle8i, after =
you pass the Oracle8 New Features for </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Administrators exam, you need to = pass just </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; one more exam titled = &quot;Oracle8i New Features for Database Administrators&quot;. </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = Surendra.Tirumala_at_us.oracle.com wrote: </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = &gt; The following person responded on the web: </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; = Name:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&= nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Surendra Tirumala </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; Email = Address:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = sutirumala_at_hotmail.com </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; Subject of Message: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; Page where user experienced =
problem: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; Feedback: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; I am a Oracle 7.3 certified =
DBA.I completed my certification on</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; 02-dec-2000.I </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; am in confusion about validity = of my certificate.I am planning to take up</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Oracle </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; 8 and 8i upgradation exams after = three months time from now.I would like</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; to know </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; whether I will be given the = credit of taking only upgradation exams any</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; time of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; my choice. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; Please clarify... </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; regards, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; surendra </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ---------- </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; From:&nbsp;&nbsp; Janardhana = Babu </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Reply = To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp; Thursday, July = 13, 2000 4:39 AM </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; = Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RE: Tell me about = the confused OCP. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Iam under the impression = that I need to upgrade my</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; certification before the </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; older version expires. Actually, = I saw the expiration date(August 2000)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; for </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Oracle7exam, and I upgraded to = Oracle8 in Jan this year. When contacted, </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; they told me that I need too = upgrade to Oracle8 before Aug 2000. If failed</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; to upgrade before Aug 2000, my = certification would be invalid and I need</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; to </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; take all the Oracle 8 exams(6, I = believe) to get into the certification</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; path </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; again. Also, they said, I need = to take Oracle8 upgrade exam and then only </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; eligible to take oracle8i = upgrade exam and I can't bypass oracle8 upgrade </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; exam and take oracle8i upgrade = exam. directly from oracle7 cert. </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; My question is, after a few = years oracle stops offering oracle8 upgrade </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; exam( just like Oracle7 exam), = then how can I appear for Oracle8i upgrade </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; exam if I have only Oracle7 cert = and not Oracle8 cert? Since it is not </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; possible to bypass oracle8 = upgrade exam inorder to get oracle8i cert., it </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; will be of no use to hold = oracle7 cert. which automatically force you to </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; take all the oracle8i or 9i = exams at some point in time.&nbsp; Let me know if </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; what I think is wrong. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -- Janardhana Babu </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -----Original Message----- = </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 = 2:57 PM </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; To: Multiple recipients of list = ORACLE-L </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Janardhan, </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; I was also in the same = impression two months back. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; I sent mail to Oracle (i don't = remeber the exact address now) requesting </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; clarification reg this. </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; They clearly replied stating = what I had mentioned in my earlier reply. </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; I have that reply also with me = in my hotmail account which I cannot access</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; now.I had forwarded that mail to = some of my friends. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I will try to get it and = post it over here. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Surendra </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; OCP DBA </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ---------- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Reply = To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp; Thursday, July = 13, 2000 1:26 AM </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I do not think the certification is valid = forever.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; We need to take </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; upgrade exam before your =
certification expires. The expiration dates will</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; be </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; available at = &lt;</FONT><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A = HREF=3D"http://education.oracle.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://education.oracle.com</A></FONT></U><FONT = SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &lt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &lt;</FONT><U><FONT = COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A = HREF=3D"http://education.oracle.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://education.oracle.com</A></FONT></U><FONT = SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &lt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &lt;</FONT><U><FONT = COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A = HREF=3D"http://education.oracle.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://education.oracle.com</A></FONT></U><FONT =
SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &lt; &lt;</FONT><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" =
SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A HREF=3D"http://education.oracle.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://education.oracle.com</A></FONT></U><FONT =
SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt;&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; After the expiration date, we = need to start all over again to get the </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; certification. Let me know if = Iam wrong. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -- Janardhana Babu </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; OCP DBA </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -----Original Message----- </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 = 12:18 PM </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; To: Multiple recipients of list = ORACLE-L </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Xiaoliang Chen, </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Once you are certfied in any = particular stream( 7/8/8i), your</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; certification </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; is valid forever.And whenever = you want to take up the upgradation exam</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; just </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; take it. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Best thing for you is to go for 8 stream and = later</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; you can think of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; taking </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; up 8i upgradation.My observation =
is that it is much difficult to clear 8i </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; exam directly because of so many = new features. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Surendra </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = ---------- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Reply = To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp; Wednesday, = July 12, 2000 11:46 PM </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; hi, = all, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I = decide to pass my OCP DBA in two months.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; But I do not if I </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; directly choose </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Oracle8i test package or choose = Oracle8 test package and then have a </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Oracle8i new features test. =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; One = of my friend said this to me: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Let me tell you why it is not = good to do oracle 8i at the moment. </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; 1. It will cost you a lot since = no one has the stuff for oracle 8i and is </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; selling it on the net. </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; 2. the&nbsp; market will not = revert to oracle 8i before a couple of years, </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; because mosst companies recently = migrated from oracle 7.3 to oracle 8 </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; 3. if you do oracle 8 and give = the upgrade exam you will have two </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; certification. oracle 8 dba and = 8i dba. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am = afraid I could hardly get Exam crams</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; about Oracle8i at </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; this </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; time. Maybe </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; I should first pass the Oracle8 =
and then pass the upgrate test. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; But someone tell me one must = pass the upgrate test in 6 months from the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; day </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; the new version was coming up. = Which mean if Oracle8i was coming up on </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; 01/01/00, I have to pass the = upgrate test from Oracle8 to Oracle8i before </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; 07/01/00. That mean I could not = the upgrate test.....I am so </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; confused....help me! </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; What is your all 's suggestion? = Please give me a reply. Your reply will be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; fully appreciated. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Best = wishes! </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Yours sincerely, Xiaoliang Chen =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; =
___________________________________ </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; SUN certified Solaris7 System = Administrator </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -- =
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