RE: Real world OCP

At 08:03 AM 6/30/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Hear hear!
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> >If you guys need a piece of paper to tell you that you >have the skill sets
>
> >to be a dba then you are in the wrong job.
>
>The piece of paper is not for the DBA. The piece of paper is for the
>employer so that a company without a lot of IT talent can figure out if they
>are hiring a dedicated person who 'reads the manuals' or some BS artist who
>decided to call themselves a DBA. Hell, if you want to get rid of all that
>red tape that's ruining the country lets get rid of this college nonsense.
>Why should a person have a piece of paper to prove they drank beer for four
>years? Just go around telling people your experience is much better than
>some piece of paper from a college.

Heck yeah, i think that a college degree is only very expensive toilet paper, my son
has not learned a damn thing of use in 3 years, that is what he says not me, he learned
more from me than he will ever get from college. If you want to license dba's how about janitors and the trash collector?

Ok have my asbestos underwear on, so keep flaming away.

> Can that be true? Certainly. There are a
>lot of people with no degree who have acquired all the professional
>experience they need to function. An experienced technician is much better
>than a well-educated clueless beginner.

You guessed it i only have an associate degree but that never stopped me and where
my son works as a sa, they would rather he quit college and work full time. So much
for co's wanting a degree. Yes some do but there are many that are figuring out that
a degree in partying is not as good as someone who earned their titles through hard
work.

>But the reality of life is that
>people like handles and tags, especially business people. They like to see
>little initials like B.S. (not BS) and M.S. They are also willing to hire
>people with lots of experience and no degree.
>
>I can certainly understand why a person might feel threatened by the very
>existence of a testing program, but I don't sympathize. My position is based
>totally on experience. That doesn't mean I have any problem whatsoever with
>seeking qualification on the current lame OCP program or anything better
>that comes along. The challenge is to make an OCP program that does not
>deserve the derision it gets on this list. The tests deserve derision as
>they are now, the concept is fine.
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>Author: Gait, Christopher
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